GOP-led report obliterates Fox News’ version of Benghazi

bengLate Friday afternoon, the Republican-led House Intelligence Committee quietly released the results of its two-year investigation into the Benghazi tragedy. As the Associated Press reports it:

“WASHINGTON (AP) — A two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee has found that the CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, and asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees.

Debunking a series of persistent allegations hinting at dark conspiracies, the investigation of the politically charged incident determined that there was no intelligence failure, no delay in sending a CIA rescue team, no missed opportunity for a military rescue, and no evidence the CIA was covertly shipping arms from Libya to Syria.

In the immediate aftermath of the attack, intelligence about who carried it out and why was contradictory, the report found. That led Susan Rice, then U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, to inaccurately assert that the attack had evolved from a protest, when in fact there had been no protest. But it was intelligence analysts, not political appointees, who made the wrong call, the committee found. The report did not conclude that Rice or any other government official acted in bad faith or intentionally misled the American people.”

That’s pretty much a slam-dunk refutation of the entire Benghazi conspiracy theory so avidly argued by many conservatives, and again, it comes from the Republican-led House Intelligence Committee. Similar press accounts of the committee findings were filed by NPR, the Washington Post, The Hill, NBC, etc. The whole right-wing Benghazi narrative is exposed for what it always was, which is nonsense.

Of course, no media outlet has been more fixated on Benghazi than Fox News. Here’s the story and headline on the Fox home page, in such tiny text it had to be highlighted so you can find it:BenFox The content of the Fox report is what’s really astonishing. To read the Fox story, the House Intelligence Committee confirmed rather than refuted the over-the-top allegations that Fox has been peddling for so long. Someone reading that Fox story and only that Fox story would not have the slightest idea that in fact the House intelligence panel had thoroughly rejected almost every aspect of the Fox version of Benghazi.

Its opening paragraph gives you a flavor:

“A leading Republican wants to expand the House investigation into the 2012 Benghazi terrorist attack by adding a Senate probe, as a new House Intelligence Committee report Friday concluded that the initial CIA assessment found no demonstrations prior to the assault and a primary purpose of the CIA operation in eastern Libya was to track the movement of weapons to Syria.”

It’s one of the more awesome examples of diversion and denial that I have ever seen. The Fox philosophy seems to be that they have lied so often to their viewers on this story that hey, what’s one more, right? The alternate universe must not be compromised by reality no matter what.

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N-GA-Online
N-GA-Online

Cons have their own science, their own religion, their own economics, their own morality. They know that, yet they also understand that they can feed whatever they want to the goose-stepping idiots who hang on their every word. The cons are still an unholy coalition of religious zealots, bigots, racists, neo-nazis, Zionists, WWE fanatics, money-hungry corporatists, misogynists and NASCAR wannabees. 


Had to get that off my chest!

Arms_Akimbo
Arms_Akimbo

Sorry Jay. Not to obliterate the premise of your story here, but the author of this AP story, Ken Dilanian, was fired from the L.A. Times in September for collaborating with the CIA. Basically, he was allowing the CIA to approve his columns before publication which apparently offended his editors.  Consequently, anything this guy publishes defending the CIA should be viewed with a grain of salt. Sorry for the clarification destroying your rant against Fox.

Johnny Fever
Johnny Fever

@Arms_Akimbo and the fact that "Similar press accounts of the committee findings were filed by NPRthe Washington PostThe Hill, NBC, etc" does what to your rant?

Besides, the "premise of (the) story" is that Fox completely misrepresented the findings. Not that Ken Dilanian feels that way. Or don't you not want to address that?

Smokeyone
Smokeyone

Benghazi is/was a veiled attempt to neutralize Hillary in 2016. There is still some flesh and bone on that horse yet.

JKLtwo
JKLtwo

@Smokeyone Hillary has nothing to worry from the right.  It's the left that will throw her under the bus(again).

hamiltonAZ
hamiltonAZ

It's easy to blame Fox, but so many people have given up thinking for themselves that the Foxes of the world have lots of low hanging fruit to pick.

The solution is complicated - the problem: how to get people to be discriminating, inquisitive and engaged.

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

Well, it looks like we've lost some conservative scare-words.

Benghazi - this report is the nail in the coffin, for all except those with an excessive "need to believe."

Ebola - Just not that scary, any more.

IRSgate - nothing.

Gruber?  Seriously...

How long until FOX comes up with a new ghazi?

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

Your Idiot Messiah is so pathetic that he needs the Washington Post to fact-check an SNL skit for him.

LeninTime
LeninTime

@Bruno2 

For some reason, LT doesn't understand that a capitalistic society's "need for cheap labor" doesn't force anyone to fill that need


Nooooo, it doesn't "force" anybody to eat. 

Starvation is an option that anyone is free to choose to avoid any way they can. 


@LilBarryBailout Seems rather odd that illegal aliens would go, by the millions, to the countries bent on exploiting them with low wages, instead of the higher paying countries who welcome them with open arms


Except they aren't "welcoming them with open arms". They are happy to subject them to hyperexploitation, looking the other way concerning immigration laws when times are good - conveniently benefiting from their desperation and willingness to do jobs others don't want to do, for peanuts and with no security - and then when times aren't so good they stop looking the other way, start harassing them, subjecting them to additional hazards, detaining them and confining them to detention camps, as they are doing in places like Italy and Australia. 

Bruno2
Bruno2

@LeninTime @LilBarryBailout @Bruno2 LT--At what point are these "exploited countries" responsible for their own destiny??  Africa likely has more natural resources than any other continent, yet they are always at the bottom of the heap in terms of per capita income.  Per "imperialism", take a look at the countries who have shed "White Rule", e.g. Zimbabwe and South Africa and tell me how much better they are doing on their own.  Not an argument for apartheid, but just placing blame where it is due.

What holds all of these countries back in Africa as well as South America is endemic corruption, not exploitation from the outside.  Why not direct your self-righteous rage toward this corruption rather than toward the captialistic countries which provide a good life for their citizens??

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@Bruno2 @LeninTime @LilBarryBailout

Communists (and communist wannabes) are afraid they can't cut it in a free market.  Communism and big government simplify life for such children and comfort them, protecting them from the need to think for themselves, compete with adults, and work for a living.  It's a loser mentality.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@LilBarryBailout @GaBlue Well, *I've* been exploiting you for YEARS.


The more you post your wackadoodle thoughts and ideas, the more sensible and reasonable we look by comparison.

LeninTime
LeninTime

@LilBarryBailout @LeninTime @Bruno2


I don't know why you're fixating on Venezuela, a capitalist country. But immigration to that country, especially from war-torn Columbia, a country ravaged by US imperialism, has been significant. 


As for Africa and SE Asia, again, US imperialism and exploitation is the primary driver of displaced peoples in those regions and elsewhere in the world. 

GaBlue
GaBlue

@Bruno2

It's because people are evil. Those that CAN exploit those of lesser means or advantages DO and WILL. You love America because you had the grit and brains and survival instincts to claw your way out of a relatively hardscrabble beginning (by U.S. standards.) The folks who come here from somewhere else are basically like you: willing to work hard enough to make a better life.  Some of us don't feel justified in trying to stop them.

GaBlue
GaBlue

@Bruno2 @GaBlue

Exactly. Those concerned with only their own survival will always do better than those who care for others. It is what it is.

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@GaBlue:  Those that CAN exploit those of lesser means or advantages DO and WILL.

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Even liberals?

tireOfIt
tireOfIt

Free speech doesn't guarantee truthful speech.  Unfortunately,  a group of our citizens  live in denial.

Cogito Ergo Erras
Cogito Ergo Erras

"I'm sure Penses and Sen Graham will let you into their club."


Now THAT is some powerful argumentation. Paul, you have outdone yourself! 

Paul42
Paul42

@Penses

Didn't mean to speak for you, just seemed like you have common outlooks.

Cogito Ergo Erras
Cogito Ergo Erras

@Paul42 @Penses


First of all, I am loathe to take government "reports" as gospel (just consider the problems with the "mother" of all such reports, issued by the Warren Commission: http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/15/opinion/sabato-jfk-assassination/). Secondly, my main concern is, and always has been, the misinformation issued by Susan Rice and others simply because 1) you don't have to be especially bright to realize almost immediately the attack was not spontaneous and inspired by a video and 2) the "talking points" were in fact doctored, edited, bowdlerized by people thousands of miles away from those providing the intelligence and 3) we have incontrovertible evidence that this adminstration has lied about a number of other things.


So, for Jay to use a government report (rather than the facts) in an attempt to smear a news organization he doesn't like just shows his true colors. Look, I don't partricularly like MSNBC, but I watch shows like Hardball and Meet the Press to see what the other side is saying and arguing (not all of which is wrong). I know they are biased, but at least they don't try to hide it (like so many of the "objective" mainstream media). I HATE deceit and MSNBC and FNC are a lot more honest than CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, the NYT, the WaPo and other organizations who PRETEND to be objective but are not.  

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@Penses @Paul42 

The point, penes, is that this is a Republican-led committee, that found "no wrong-doing by administration appointees."

The Democrats and Republicans agree on this.  The only dissent come from Fox and its readers/viewers, who have fallen for Fox's attempts to use them to generate advertising revenue.  They're using you, dude, by lying to you.

Cogito Ergo Erras
Cogito Ergo Erras

@Nick_Danger @Penses @Paul42


I will say it again: I don't give a fig what most government reports say. I don't think much of Issa and his counterpart Cummings - they're just politicians. I want to look at the facts and go from there.

Cogito Ergo Erras
Cogito Ergo Erras

@Paul42 @Penses


"This report addressed all that and arrived at conclusions that knocks the legs out of the conjecture."


I never put a lot of stock in those conjectures anyway. And I truly think they arose out of an inability to believe the administration would misinform (and that is precisely what they did) the public over such a consequential matter when it is palpably obvious to all that the attack was NOT mob violence. And I don't euphemistically call lying "spin" or being "political" (which is a lie in and of itself - not calling somethuing what it is to avoid repercussions). The fact is people in the government deliberately edited out factual intel to create a false narrative:


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/04/mike_morell_will_fit_right_in_at_dan_rathers_old_network.html.  

Paul42
Paul42

@Penses

What Nick_Danger said.

Also, please consider this:  practically all that's been available until now have been Cong Issa's conjectures, presented as 'fact'  and an endless stream of talking heads on Fox giving various opinions and 'what if' or 'what about' scenarios that many took as the facts of what really happened.

This report addressed all that and arrived at conclusions that knocks the legs out of the conjecture.

As to the talking points:  either one is disposed to think they were political, or one is disposed to think it's the best assessment early on, subject to more information and facts as they would be found.  Which is just what Rice said on the talk shows ('to the best of our knowledge... as far as we know now.... subject to further information' etc.)

CardiganBoy
CardiganBoy

I want in on the fun too.  Relative to the blog topic - exactly what are we celebrating? 


The Ambassador and three support personnel are still dead, right? Stevens body was dragged through the streets as I recall.  It was a GOP-led committee (remember those liars?) who released the conclusions that's made our pre-Thanksgiving weekend so festive.  



The Obama Administration is still responsible for this massive blunder but there's no evidence they intentionally covered it up.  So this is great news for America?

Paul42
Paul42

@SimpleTruths

House Intel Republicans vote unanimously for findings casting con talking points into the trash bin and cons think liberals are circling the wagons.

Only on Jay's blog.  

Or in Wonderland.

LeninTime
LeninTime

@Penses 

By the way, what is your problem with exterminating people anyhow? Your kind has already exterminated about 70 million since the mid 70s.

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My kind? What kind is that exactly? 
And "exterminated" about 70 million, since the mid-70s? Really? Whatever would you talking about? 

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@Paul42 @moonbat_betty 

The Democrats have explained to them that they're wrong.  And now, the Republicans have explained to them that they're wrong.

But they cling to the rumor and innuendo supplied by Fox as their "truth," not realizing that Fox only loves them for the advertising revenue they generate.

Sad, really...

Bruno2
Bruno2

Lenin Time: Why are the workers coming here in the first place?  The same reason they're coming to other advanced economies around the world. Because US capitalism - like capitalism in the EU, Australia, Canada and elsewhere -- desperately needs ever more infusions of ultra-cheap labor to exploit to perpetuate itself. Until it doesn't need them, and then it turns around and criminalizes them and treats them like so much detritus to be expelled.

LT--For some reason, you seem to be the only person here who can't--or more likely won't--connect the dots.  The dots are "advanced economies" and "capitalism".  You list them as if they are separate and unconnected. 

Chatting with you here always reminds me of the famous painting of Plato and Aristotle in which Plato is pointing toward the sky (theory) while Aristotle is pointing toward the ground (reality).  Capitalism has its flaws, but it provides the best life for the most people.

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@Bruno2

Seems rather odd that illegal aliens would go, by the millions, to the countries bent on exploiting them with low wages, instead of the higher paying countries who welcome them with open arms.  Very odd indeed.

Bruno2
Bruno2

@LilBarryBailout @Bruno2 For some reason, LT doesn't understand that a capitalistic society's "need for cheap labor" doesn't force anyone to fill that need.  If he wants to be mad at anyone, why not start with the home countries of the illegal aliens which can't provide a living wage for their people.  Maybe they can go Communist and become wealthy like Cuba.

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@Bruno2

How many Mexicans and Central Americans are fleeing to the workers paradise of Venezuela?  There's a lot more equality there than in the U.S.

fedup52
fedup52

@Bruno2  The most advanced economic systems are socialist (like European countries).

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@Penses - "We induce them to self-deport"


LOL!!! Too funny!!  And are they going to take their American born children with them, or just leave them here for the GOP to take care of? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Bruno2
Bruno2

@DebbieDoRight @Penses So what is your preferred solution, DDR??  All I'm saying is that we need to decide, then act accordingly.  The Mixed Message Approach,  continued with Obama's new Executive Order and by the Senate bill, is inhumane IMO.  Is that what you are advocating?? Pretending that we have laws??

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@Paul42 @DebbieDoRight 

I guess they could burn a cross on their lawns - that's the traditional way to induce folks to "self-deport", right?