Chris Rock: America producing ‘nicer white people’

A good comedian can make you look at the everyday and see it in a new way. Chris Rock is a very good comedian.

130205_chris_rock_605_apHere’s he is on Ferguson and race relations:

“When we talk about race relations in America or racial progress, it’s all nonsense. There are no race relations. White people were crazy. Now they’re not as crazy. To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before ….

So, to say Obama is progress is saying that he’s the first black person that is qualified to be president. That’s not black progress. That’s white progress. There’s been black people qualified to be president for hundreds of years.

If you saw Tina Turner and Ike having a lovely breakfast over there, would you say their relationship’s improved? Some people would. But a smart person would go, “Oh, he stopped punching her in the face.” It’s not up to her. Ike and Tina Turner’s relationship has nothing to do with Tina Turner. Nothing. It just doesn’t.

The question is, you know, my kids are smart, educated, beautiful, polite children. There have been smart, educated, beautiful, polite black children for hundreds of years. The advantage that my children have is that my children are encountering the nicest white people that America has ever produced. Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.”

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Corey
Corey

@ CardiganBoy 22 hours ago


Dude, there is genius in humor and painting by the numbers isn't truly art. Comprende. Let me put it this way; what Chris said is a "black thang." 

CardiganBoy
CardiganBoy

I guess there's a cogent point somewhere in that riff.  


Glad Chris and his little Rocks have more than their fair share of nice white people in their lives.  Maybe some of those nice white people should be relocated to enrich the quality of life of other black families.  


That seems only fair to me.  Chris didn't earn all those nice white people in his life.  No sir. He needs to share more of what he has - especially since there are so many victims out there who need nice white people in their lives too.



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Stands for nothing -  It's because our Blah blah blah couldn't accept that George W. Bush had, in fact, become very very unpopular with the American public in 2006.  Say what???


Excuse me but it started becasue of your rebuttal of Obama's approval poll numbers being in the tank.  Seems you had to go with the Bush bashing as a deflection maneuver.  Typical white flag post.   Get it straight pal

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@blah blah blah Blah, if Obama's numbers are "bad," then Bush's numbers were "abysmal."  Obama's numbers are greater than Bush's PLUS Cheney's.


Long story short, you chose to make an attack from the flank where you're weakest.  Not good combat strategy.


Brosephus
Brosephus

Obama Immigration Executive Order Sheetz!!!

ErwinsCat
ErwinsCat

Gosh, how can y'all stand this new blog format much less the new site ?

Brosephus
Brosephus

@ErwinsCat 

I don't hang around as much as before.  Between the format and some of the stuff said, I think my time is better utilized watching my lawn grow.

Brosephus
Brosephus

@ErwinsCat 

That's a good thing.  Just make sure you're adequately compensated for that increased productivity.

bu2
bu2

Rams players protesting by putting their hands up is a clear example of how less nice people are.  They don't understand each other.  They did it as a symbol of solidarity with the protestors in Ferguson.  But to the police, that symbol is calling them murderers and saying that you believe the guy who helped Brown rob the convenience store and mug its owner along with other discredited "witnesses" over the police officer and all the witnesses that the grand jury chose to believe.  From the police officer's standpoint, its unbelievably offensive.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@bu2


From the police officer's standpoint, its unbelievably offensive.

Boo friggin' hoo.

(So sorry it ruined Joe Scarboro's day.)

Brosephus
Brosephus

@bu2 

NWA wrote a song about the police years ago, ya know.

It may be offensive to the police, but the police actions are offensive to minorities.  So, both parties are offended.  Are the police going to stop what they're doing?  If not, then the Rams players and others don't need to stop what they're doing.  Not a single police officer has been harmed by the Rams players raising their hands.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

by the way, the whole reason we're having this silly discussion about WMD?


It's because our Blah blah blah couldn't accept that George W. Bush had, in fact, become very very unpopular with the American public in 2006.

LordHelpUs
LordHelpUs

@bu2 @stands_for_decibels 'He believed flimsy evidence because it supported what he and nearly everyone else on the planet believed'


He, Cheney and others 'believed it' because it fit their neo-con ambitions.  They SOLD it regardless of its flaws...

bu2
bu2

@stands_for_decibels 

Its because stupid Democrats keep believing the constantly repeated  lie that W. lied about weapons of mass destruction.


W. was wrong, but he firmly believed that Sadaam had weapons of mass destruction.  He believed flimsy evidence because it supported what he and nearly everyone else on the planet believed. Sadaam had them before, had used them, refused inspections and threatened to use them again.

bu2
bu2

Unfortunately, Chris Rock is wrong.  People of all ethnic groups are less nice on average.  Maybe a little less racist, but less nice.



straker
straker

consumed - "Americans made a lot of money arming him.....and disarming him"


And now they want to make even more money in Iraq as well as Afghanistan.


And since they. The-Military-Industrial-Complex are in charge of our wars, don't look for peace anytime soon.


Money talks and BS walks.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

Since Blah wants to re-litigate Bush's Excellent Eyerack adventure here, it might be worth considering how disgusting it was that the Administration and their handmaidens in the media chose to dumb down the term "Weapons of Mass Destruction" to include bog-standard chemical stuff that'd been around for eons, and which pretty much anyone can make and deploy if they wish.

Paul42
Paul42

@stands_for_decibels

Illustrates what we see so often on this forum.


Read something that supports what one wants to believe.

Don't think about it or verify it.

Repost it here.

Assert how true it is.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@Paul42 @stands_for_decibels


I sure wish I could find a New Republic article that likely ran in late 2002, can't remember who wrote it, or if it was even all that critical of Team Bush at the time (TNR was a big Iraq war cheerleader, remember)--but it raised that point about how all of a sudden, chemical weapons were being equated with nukes, and how incredibly stupid and irresponsible that was.

A little surprised that nobody seems to care about how we all seem to have gone along with this nonsense about all "WMD" having some kind of singular effect.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@stands_for_decibels @Paul42 "how all of a sudden, chemical weapons were being equated with nukes, and how incredibly stupid and irresponsible that was."


There's an expression that biological and chemical weapons are "the poor man's nukes."  They're easier and cheaper to make than fission weapons.


For military purposes, though, they're generally thought of as a family; "NBC" (Nuclear-Biological-Chemical) or for you older guys, "CBR" (Chemical-Biological-Radiological) weapons.


Paul42
Paul42

@stands_for_decibels

I'd have to verify, but off the top of my head I believe that was just a follow-on to what had been US policy for years.  Think Cold War, Europe.  Soviets had a huge numerical advantage, thought was NATO, in defense, with greater weapons sophistication, could hold.  WARSAW Pact trained for and advocated use of chemical and biological agents (part of the "NBC" - nuclear, chemical and biological).  Thought was, employment of such weapons would swing the advantage to Soviets.  Hence, policy was to not distinguish between employment of NBC weapons - that a chemical/biological attack would be met with a nuclear response, as that is the one of the three weapons we had and would employ.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@Paul42 @stands_for_decibels I've read declassified strategic documents that indicated that our Cold War invasion strategy was to use what armor, artillery and air power we could to force the Soviets to channel their main armor push through the Fulda Gap in Germany, whereupon we planned to slap them silly with tactical nuclear munitions.


Needless, to say, German leadership wasn't too thrilled with that plan.


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The article by Times reporter C.J. Chivers focused on U.S. soldiers who suffered from exposure to the sulfur mustard and other nerve gases which emitted from the bombs. According to the story, about "5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs" were found scattered across Iraqi soil.

liberal critics were quick to point out that the bombs were the same WMDs that Bush described; they were from the 1980s and early 1990s. 


Funny, the warheads were there from the 80s & 90s, 5-10 years before we invaded...  U.S. soldiers who suffered from exposure to the sulfur mustard and other nerve gases which emitted from the bombs

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@blah blah blah yeah, Saddam was our b-tch before he wasn't. lots of americans made a lot of money arming him . . . and disarming him. imagine. 

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@blah blah blah Did you happen to notice the US Department of Defense price tags on those Bush The Elder-era WMDs, Pumpkin?


Rumsfeld's name was on them.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@blah blah blah @consumedconsumer @Tuna Meowt but, but, but . . . we gave them to him knowing he'd use them. We also supplied intelligence to allow him to use them. for god's sakes, we are the largest supplier of death in the world. and we have the nerve to call ourselves the policeman - policing the f-k ups we create.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@blah blah blah whatever simpleton. play dumb all you want. it's not like all the fuss in iraq was over what we sold them, rather than what they were supposedly clandestinely creating . . . y'all and your revisionist history.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@blah blah blah @Tuna Meowt "all of this proofs my point."


Lie.  You really should try reading those links.


"WMD were in Iraq..."


Nothing new after Desert Storm.  Bush's claims that there were *new* WMDs being *manufactured* in Iraq after Desert Storm were quite simply false.


"Thank you"


There are none so blind as those who will not see.


Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@blah blah blah @SFM_Scootter @Tuna Meowt Sonny, *you* keep bringing up Bush's name and falsely claiming that we found WMD in Iraq after the 2003 invasion.


Just FYI, nobody *ever* found *any* WMD that dated from after Desert Storm.  And biochem munitions that had been stored for 12+ years (leading up for 2003) would be more dangerous to the people storing and attempting to use them than to the targets of such weapons.  Biochem munitions are *very* unstable and degrade fairly fast in storage.


Then again, if you'd been in uniform during Desert Storm (like I was) and had ever dealt with Chemical Corps troops (like I have), then you might already know some of what I'm telling you.


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@Tuna Meowt @blah blah blah So how about  the recent story of ISIS finding & controlling these chemicals storage sites???  You're telling me that someone removed and then returned those chemical after the US left Iraq.  Sounds fishy to me (no pun intended)


So as an expert give us some insight..  We hear you barking but not explaining why the military left them behind.  They are just as dangerous in the hands of ISIS as in the hands of Saddam.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@blah blah blah @Tuna Meowt "So how about  the recent story of ISIS finding & controlling these chemicals storage sites???"


What about them?  We knew they were there when we went in in 1991, pal.  We didn't need to go in AGAIN in 2003.


"You're telling me that someone removed and then returned those chemical after the US left Iraq.  Sounds fishy to me (n0 pun intended)"


I neither said nor thought any such thing.  And had you ASKED, I'd have told you that we surveyed and logged those weapons and LEFT THEM IN PLACE BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO DANGEROUS TO MOVE.  That's what happens to biochemical munitions that have been sitting in storage for 10-20 YEARS.  You eff with it, something leaks, and suddenly you have a bunch of sick people and a contaminated site.


Yeah, I HOPE that ISIS effs around with that stuff.  Let them poison *themselves.*


"So as an expert give us some insight..  We hear you barking but not explaining why the military left them behind.  They are just as dangerous in the hands of ISIS as in the hands of Saddam."


Wrong.  At this point, they're really only dangerous to whoever *possesses* them.  You're making the mistake of thinking that you can put this shyt on the shelf and then come back 20 years later, load the biochem shells up into a howitzer and start blasting away.  You can't.  First, the shells corrode, and secondly, the *interior mechanisms* corrode, making them duds at best.  But the biochem agents inside *degrade* and react, turning them into other stuff.  THAT is what the American cleanup crews were dealing with, and that's how they were exposed.


Now, if TRAINED American soldiers can't avoid getting contaminated by this crap, would you care to explain how untrained ISIS chimpanzees are going to be able to successfully use 20+ year old corroded and degraded biochem munitions to hurt *anyone* other than themselves?


For those wanting to know what WE did with OUR outdated chemical munitions, here you go:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JACADS


I was there.  It's on Johnston Island, part of a tiny atoll about 850 miles SSW of Honolulu.  It's a godforsaken place, and I believe it's now off-limits to visitors.  If you even felt like going there.


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@Tuna Meowt @blah blah blah Thanks for the informative post.  Anniston Al. is one of several chemical disposal site.  A little closer to home.  Hope you're right about ISIS getting sick they deserve it.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@blah blah blah @Tuna Meowt FWIW, I don't believe Anniston disposed of the *really* dangerous stuff; IIRC, that was sent to Johnston Island or Tooele, Utah.


I've been past the Anniston site many times, and a leak would be pretty dangerous to the town.


Agree on the ISIS guys.  Seriously, I *want* them to screw around with this stuff.  Just imagine, they're screwing around in one of the storage sites, someone knocks over an old shell, it cracks open and a couple hundred Islamists die twitching four hours later.  Enjoy your virgins, boys.


Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@blah blah blah @Tuna Meowt One more note: it was pretty creepy on Johnston Island.  There were a few hundred contractors and Army (plus a few Navy) guys there.  The only weapons you saw were on guys guarding the storage bunkers, docks and offloading operations.


But EVERYBODY, from the commander to the lowliest sanitation contractor, had a gas mask strapped to his hip, EVERYWHERE they went.  There were detectors all over the island (mostly around the docks and storage bunkers), and if even one got a hit, a siren would go off.  If that ever happened, EVERYONE had to drop what they were doing and get their mask on, pronto.


I was only there for a short time and never heard the alert siren myself, but it was a pretty creepy environment to live and work in.