Three young Muslim Americans, murdered in North Carolina

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Deah Shaddy Barakat, 23, left, his wife Yusor Mohammad Abu-Salha, 21, center, and Abu-Salha’s sister, Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha, 19, were killed Tuesday in North Carolina.

Three young Muslim Americans — two sisters and the new husband of one of the sisters — were murdered Tuesday in an apartment complex in Chapel Hill, N.C. The suspect, Craig Hicks, 46, turned himself in to police and has been charged with the crimes.

While law enforcement officials attribute the killings to a dispute over a parking spot, the roots of the tragedy apparently go much deeper.

As the Raleigh News and Observer reports:

…. the women’s father, Dr. Mohammad Abu-Salha, who has a psychiatry practice in Clayton, said regardless of the precise trigger Tuesday night, Hicks’ underlying animosity toward Barakat and Abu-Salha was based on their religion and culture. Abu-Salha said police told him Hicks shot the three inside their apartment.

“It was execution style, a bullet in every head,” Abu-Salha said Wednesday morning. “This was not a dispute over a parking space; this was a hate crime. This man had picked on my daughter and her husband a couple of times before, and he talked with them with his gun in his belt. And they were uncomfortable with him, but they did not know he would go this far.”

Abu-Salha said his daughter, who lived next door to Hicks, wore a Muslim head scarf and told her family a week ago that she had “a hateful neighbor.”

“Honest to God, she said, ‘He hates us for what we are and how we look,’” he said.

This was taken from Hicks’ Facebook page:

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Hicks is apparently a radical, fanatical atheist, a man deeply antagonistic to all forms of faith and all those who practice such faiths. As he posts on Facebook:

I give your religion as much respect as your religion gives me. There’s nothing complicated about it, and I have every right to insult a religion that goes out of its way to insult, to judge, and to condemn me as an inadequate human being – which your religion does with self-righteous gusto.

Craig Hicks

Craig Hicks

“When it comes to insults, your religion started this, not me. If your religion kept its big mouth shut, so would I. But given that it doesn’t, and given the enormous harm that your religion has done in this world, I’d say that I have not only a right, but a duty, to insult it, as does every rational, thinking person on this planet. Because the moment that your religion claims any kind of jurisdiction over my experience, you insult me on a level that you can’t even begin to comprehend. “Even if your beliefs had substance, the arrogance of that would be insult enough. But the fact that they have no substance, and are merely a transparent raft of delusions and lies, magnifies the insult enormously.”

As that rant illustrates, atheists can be every bit as intolerant, bigoted and close-minded as they believe people of faith to be. That fact suggests that intolerance is not a product of religious faith in general, nor of a particular faith system, as some might suggest. Instead, it is a basic human trait that can find expression through almost any faith or even, as in this case, the rejection of faith.

For example, although I myself am not a religious person, and although I find some of what comedian Bill Maher says funny and insightful, I cannot watch him because in his anti-religious tirades he is just as haughty, offensive and insulting as the most dogmatic of preachers, imams or other religious leaders. He is the mirror image of what he claims to despise.

Given what we know so far, it seems that Hicks’ fanatical hatred of religion played at least some role in this tragedy. It also seems plausible, although we’ll never know for sure, that under different circumstances the victims could have been three young Mormon missionaries or three Sikhs. But again, it is the fanaticism — the rejection of all doubt about questions that have no absolute answers, the certainty that those who disagree are so wrong that they deserve no respect — that is the root of the problem and our common enemy, regardless of what form it may take.

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MiltonMan
MiltonMan

Good thing our clown president was socking it to them Christians the other day.

DawgWhistle
DawgWhistle

If there's any justice left in North Carolina this a-hole will spend the rest of his life in jail regardless if this is deemed a 'hate crime' or just a parking dispute. Surely you can't 'execute' three innocent people and ever expect to see 'the light of day' except from behind bars or inside a wall.

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

I saw where the sister of one of the muslims who were killed is demanding there be an investigation to determine if this was a hate crime.  I'd like for someone to ask her if she feels the same way about the Boston Marathon bomber.

I v e n h e r k o n
I v e n h e r k o n

@fiftythreepercenter

And if she does? What then? "Oh...well..." /kick-rocks?

And if she doesn't? Does that have any bearing on whether *this* crime was a hate crime?

/smh

Brosephus
Brosephus

ISIS err...  Daesh sheetz!!

dbm1
dbm1

Jay,

Questions that seem to have no "absolute answer" might turn out to have a single correct answer once people obtain enough understanding. 


Hicks went wrong in two ways.


He confused being mistaken with being evil.


To put it mildly, he used physical force against people who had not initiated physical force.

Brosephus
Brosephus

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2950409/World-s-penis-REDUCTION-surgery-Teenager-requested-op-genitals-grew-large-stopped-having-sex.html

A 17-year-old boy has undergone the world's first penis reduction surgery, surgeons claim.

The American teen requested the surgery after his penis grew too large, restricting his ability to have sex or play competitive sports.

The boy's surgeons were shocked when he came to them complaining that his penis was too big. 

When flaccid, it measured almost seven inches in length and had a circumference of 10 inches - around the size of a grapefruit.

Surgeons described it as being shaped like an American football. 

The surgeon who treated the teenager, Rafael Carrion, a urologist at the University of South Florida, told MailOnline: 'There comes a time in every urologist's career that a patient makes a request so rare and impossible to comprehend that all training breaks down and leaves the physician speechless.

'That question was "can you make my penis smaller"?'

Thanks Obama...

KUTGF
KUTGF

@Brosephus  Bro, this article gives you some real hope for a cure.  :D 

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

from the link:


In most Arabic nations, however, the group is generally referred to as Daesh. Historian and blogger Pieter van Ostaeyen wrote this year that that word was a transliteration of an Arabic word (داعش), an acronym for al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham (which is itself a transliteration of the group's Arabic name: الدولة الإسلامية في العراق والشام). The word can be transliterated a variety of different ways: The Washington Post uses DAIISH, but DAASH, DAIISH and DAISH are also used.

Some non-Arab countries, including France, have begun using the name, too. "I do not recommend using the term Islamic State because it blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims and Islamists," Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told reporters in September. "The Arabs call it ‘Daesh’ and I will be calling them the ‘Daesh cutthroats.’ ”

LeninTime
LeninTime

@HeadleyLamar 

@LeninTime With his economy in ruins Putin blinked

***

Have you not been following events very closely? It's the Ukrainian economy, not Russian, that is in freefall. The currency lost half its value last week in the span of a couple of days.

That, along with the trouncing the Ukrainians have been getting on the battlefield, is what is driving this latest round of feverish negotiations ultimately.


And Cohen's opinion in no way should reflect on the entire NY Times

***

Sure it should. The New York Times has been the source of some of the most biased and shamefully dishonest propaganda on Ukraine throughout the entire crisis, which is really saying something. And not just on the op-ed page either, but in the actual reporting. 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@LeninTime @HeadleyLamar Sure it should. The New York Times has been the source of some of the most biased and shamefully dishonest propaganda on Ukraine


I'm sure in your opinion that is so


Here in the real world not so much. 

honested
honested

@LeninTime @HeadleyLamar 

Vladimir Putin's longing for a return to a military dictatorship/cult of personality will not subside.

His failure at 'leadership' will provide textbook examples for generations to come.

Russia and Ukraine competing for who can attain the greatest degree of economic catastrophe is like Alabama and Mississippi competing for the mean lowest IQ.

Tiberius-Constitutionus
Tiberius-Constitutionus

Two things:


1. What will Hicks be thinking when strapped to the gurney?


2. When will Captain-Cliven declare Hicks a "great American hero" and "true patriot"?

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@Tiberius-Constitutionus

What will Hicks be thinking when strapped to the gurney?

Let this murderer plead out for a life without parole. 

I don't want to spend a single penny on him that I don't have to, and we all know that DP cases wind up costing us a lot more money than just leaving him to rot the rest of his miserable life in jail.


DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

Where are the cries from the left about Obama being a faux Christian?

fedup52
fedup52

Someone should ask Obozo what "ISIS" stands for.  I bet he couldn't do it.

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I bet you spent half a day memorizing it.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

Actually, I heard (on BBC's "The World", I think) that neither ISIS nor ISIL are in common conversational use in the Middle East. They refer to these thugs by some other Arabic phonetic rendering of a different acronym, I think it sounds kinda like "Daysh" or suchlike.

Obama could really freak 'em out if he dropped that one at a presser.

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@Visual_Cortex 

"Obama could really freak 'em out if he dropped that one at a presser."

It would finally be proof that he is a Mooslem Kenyan socialist dictator that hates America!

fedup52
fedup52

Saw in Jon Stewart:


Fox accused Obama of acting like a king.


And now they are worshipping the king of Jordan for acting the way is.


Now they are accusing for not acting like a King.


The President should shove another EA up the GOP you know what just to remind them who is the adult in the room.

InTheMiddle2
InTheMiddle2

@fedup52 NEWSFLASH:  The King of Jordan IS a King. Obama is a President. Do I need to supply definitions?

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@LeninTime With his economy in ruins Putin blinked


And Cohen's opinion in no way should reflect on the entire NY Times

Cupofjoe
Cupofjoe

@Brosephus @Cupofjoe 

amazing birds-  I am constantly mesmerized about the hawks and coyotes up in here in Alpharetta.  Lot of "missing cat" posters around as well-  hmmmm

blah blah blah
blah blah blah

A growing stream of recruits joining Islamic State.  Russia building relationships with ME countries: Egypt.  Iran influence growing in the ME with Yemen being the latest.  United States closes down it's third embassy since 2010.  ISIS strategy is non-existence. The world leaders have lost confidence in America under Obama's rule.  


Sounds like a science fiction movie but nope...  It's Obama world...

fedup52
fedup52

@blah blah blah Russia building relationships

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With what.  Ruble is not worth the paper it is printed on.  Those MEers treasure our $s by the way.

Bulls_3y3
Bulls_3y3

@fedup52  I guess they are looking to Russia for technology: ie building nuclear facilities in Egypt.  

fedup52
fedup52

He's proven himself a capable executive. Something O'Bozo has never done.

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Keep practicing whining.  You will be doing this for the next 10 years or may be more.

LeninTime
LeninTime

So maybe we can put this idea to bed once and for all about Barack Obama being a closet Muslim? 

KUTGF
KUTGF

@LeninTime  LOL........ sure right after you show his birth certificate!  LOL

fedup52
fedup52

@Brosephus @LeninTime  Can't forget the article in local paper that Obamas are splitting up.  Saw it once then it disappeared.

Brosephus
Brosephus

@LeninTime 

Yeah right...  That closet also contains Michelle's "Whitey Tape" and Obama's secret male lover.   :-)

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

@KUTGF @TBS Howard Dean implied on Morn Joe that Walker probably
didn't know about evolution because he didn't finish college.  I wasn't aware that they didn't teach that until the last semester.

KUTGF
KUTGF

@TBS  Will he take a course on evolution or just punt that one? 

Brosephus
Brosephus

@_GodlessHeathen_ 

Depends on the school.  Go to a technical college, and they won't touch evolution unless you're talking about the evolution of combustion engines that led us to the Hemi.   :-)

TBS
TBS

@KUTGF @TBS


Don't know.  AyeAye was whining below about WaPo bias because they ran a story about Walker not having  degree so I posted a Fox News and the brietbart article which speaks of the same thing

He is now at a loss for words.  Lack of integrity and intellectual honesty stumps him every time. 

KUTGF
KUTGF

@TBS @KUTGF  AAS with integrity and intellectual honesty.......  LOL.  that would be a miracle that would likely signal the end of times.  ;)

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@TBS

What an inflammatory headline. Breitbart clearly has a liberal bias.

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@TBS The only thing a Republican could do with a real education is become a Democrat.