What Bill O’Reilly tells us about Fox News and its values

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As I noted earlier, it’s highly unlikely that Fox host Bill O’Reilly will pay any professional price for his repeated lies and exaggerations.  Most people concerned about values such as accuracy and truth wrote off O’Reilly on those counts long ago, for understandable reasons.

But just for the record, any doubt about his lack of veracity is now pretty much settled.

In two books and multiple TV appearances, O’Reilly has claimed to have been on the front porch of a Florida home when George de Mohrenschildt, a peripheral figure in the investigation of the JFK assassination, committed suicide with a shotgun just before appearing before a congressional investigative committee.

As O’Reilly wrote in his book “Killing Kennedy”:

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But as with O’Reilly’s claims of reporting from combat situations and a war zone in the Falklands, none of it happened. Media Matters has assembled overwhelming evidence in multiple forms that O’Reilly was a thousand miles away at the moment that Mohrenschildt committed suicide. In short, the Fox personality  made the whole thing up to place himself at the center of the story, to make it all about him — a shocking revelation, I’m sure.

Yes, conservative defenders of O’Reilly and Fox will point and howl at Media Matters as the source of the report. The evidence, however, stands on its own. Those who worked with O’Reilly at the Dallas TV station say the incident never happened, making the unassailable point that if an WFAA reporter had been on the scene of the suicide as it happened, and had overheard that shotgun blast, the station would have trumpeted that fact to the skies in its reporting. O’Reilly being O’Reilly, he would have insisted upon it.

Instead, silence. Because it never happened. **

In addition, police accounts of the suicide mention interviews with two maids in the house, noting that neither heard the fatal shot. The police reports make no mention of a reporter on the porch who did overhear the shot.

Because he wasn’t there.

Two other independent sources report that they heard firsthand at the time, from O’Reilly himself, that he had been in Dallas at the time of the suicide and learned about the tragedy in a phone call from Mohrenschildt’s attorney, not by hearing the shot, as he has since claimed.

Again, O’Reilly’s career will almost certainly survive this, as it has survived prior escapades. So why is it important?

It’s important because his continued presence at Fox offers confirmation that the “news” network honors no standards of professional journalistic conduct. It is not a news-gathering operation, it is an outrage factory, and O’Reilly is very good at inspiring and instigating outrage. When NBC suspended Brian Williams for six months, it did so because it valued its reputation more than it valued the viewers that Williams might bring.

Fox? They simply do not care.

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** In yet another well-documented example, O’Reilly has claimed repeatedly to have witnessed the shooting of nuns in El Salvador in 1980. That is impossible, because by O’Reilly’s own account he did not travel to El Salvador until 1981.

 

 

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Ann Blasius
Ann Blasius

Of the lies O'Reilly has been caught in, I find the lie about seeing nuns shot implying he was present and an eye witness, and the lie about being present at the de Mohrenschildt suicide the most disturbing. There's just something about falsely inserting himself into those tragedies that is just so reprehensible. I keep on thinking about the families of those victims having the knowledge that Bill O'Reilly exploited the deaths of their loved ones for the purpose of self-aggrandizement.


One has to be dead in his soul to do such things.

Citizen-of-the-World
Citizen-of-the-World

Lies and the lying liars who tell them... everybody already knows that Bill O'Reilly is a liar. He lies everyday, to himself as much as anybody else. We'll call it Billful Ignorance. So the outrage isn't there, as Jay points out, because the shock isn't there. 

Peachs
Peachs

Bill O'Reilly is a cartoon character, Brien Williams is Shakespeare how can we confuse one with the other?

jellyphish
jellyphish

Jay, you'll only matter to the fringe, mob left until you also challenge Hillary "Sniper Fire" Clinton.  What's good for the goose...

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

@Dave C @straitroad Hillary is a poor Saint, if you don't think so, just ask her, she left the White House broke as a church mouse 

Dave C
Dave C

@straitroad Hillary "Sniper Fire" Clinton was widely challenged. She retracted her story and apologized.

JamVet
JamVet

What a quick fall.

From beloved focal point of 9/11 to becoming a Mussolini acolyte...

Rudy Giuliani insists he’s not a racist. He’s just doesn’t believe “this President loves America.” Obama, he claims, “wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up.” The President spent his impressionable years around “communists,” “anti-colonialists” and other subversive influences. As a result, “he doesn’t talk about America the way John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan did, about America’s greatness and exceptionalism.”

Actually, it was Reagan, not Obama, who as a young man joined the United World Federalists, which wanted to replace the United States with a world government. Reagan was also a leader of the communist-influenced Hollywood Independent Citizens Committee of the Arts, Sciences and Professions (HICCASP), resigning only as communists took full control of the organization.

JamVet
JamVet

@KUTGF 

Hysterically damning.

Truths do not matter to the Fox faithful however.

Let the lies roll on!

It seems to make them happy...

RaindroidWillBoy
RaindroidWillBoy

Not to brag or nothing but I've seen babes dancing in the midnight sun, old men crying by their own gravesites and pigs sitting watching picture slides...

AyeAyeSir
AyeAyeSir

@RaindroidWillBoy


T-shirts because motorcycles don't have doors !!


FRESH HOSPITAL SHEETS UPSTAIRS  !!

JamVet
JamVet

This breaking news just in!

Former NYC mayor, Rudy G. says that Bill "Stolen Valor" O'Reilly does not love his country sufficiently.

Rudy insists that he just doesn’t believe “this telefraud loves America.” O'Reilly, he claims, “wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up.”

More on the disgraced guv:

Rudy Giuliani Is Now Trump, Minus the Hair

After digging in for days, Rudy Giuliani finally wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed trying to roll back his attack on President Obama for insufficiently loving America. Chuck Todd called the media frenzy a "race to the bottom" for everyone involved and Mississippi governor Haley Barbour wondered why anyone should care. Is this the end of Rudy Giuliani as a figure with any real political influence?

That end came long ago — to put a fine point on it, during Giuliani’s short-lived 2008 presidential campaign, surely one of the most farcical ever run by a candidate who was, for a time anyway, considered a top-tier prospect. (Chris Christie, however, shows signs of giving him a run for the money on this score.) Since then, he has mainly retreated to his consulting and legal business, where his patriotic clients have included the pharmaceutical company that pleaded guilty to lying about the addiction risks of OxyContin, and the government of Qatar, which has been accused of funding terrorism.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@honested @SimpleTruths

Be kind--there are vast swaths of people out there who have apparently not figured out that there are "news", "news analysis", and "opinion" categories of journalism that are distinct from one another.

JamVet
JamVet

@SimpleTruths 

Drop the name truths from your nom de blogue and the laughter might just subside a bit.

Why does the truth about Billy "Stolen Valor" O'Reilly bother you so much?

HE WAS THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY DURING THAT SUICIDE.

Does that truth mean anything to you?

Or all truths uncomfortable for you "hit pieces"?


JamVet
JamVet

@SimpleTruths @JamVet 

Alinksy was a staggeringly brilliant writer.

You?

A common hit and run complainer with no explanation, intellectual or otherwise, as to this being, in your opinion, a hit piece.

At a bare minimum do some research and look up the definition of "hit piece'.

It apparently means something other than what you believe.

i.e., if telling the truth about this total fraud and his non-truth about being there doing that suicide offends you, then again, I'd suggest that you drop the word truths from your name.

Or better yet, just man up and explain yourself and your assertion.

(Or don't...)

SimpleTruths
SimpleTruths

@JamVet @SimpleTruths Saul Alinsky tactic number 5 in action: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

"If you believe that he is lying then he has an open challenge for anyone to come on the show and prove him wrong"

It would be more fun to have him go on someone else's show to defend himself.  Then, when he can't, he can storm off like he did to Terry Gross on "Fresh Air"

Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

@Kamchak @Doggone_GA I can imagine.  I happened to hear the "Fresh Air" piece purely by accident.  Had never heard of him or that show, but it was entertaining...to say the least!

Kamchak
Kamchak

@Doggone_GA

I saw him on CSPAN with Molly Ivins and Al Franken when Franken called him out on his Peabody Award BS.

O'Reilly had a full blown melt-down.

AyeAyeSir
AyeAyeSir

Ah ............ what's a little unethical behavior for a presidential candidate ?


"The Clinton Foundation was on the defensive Wednesday after disclosing that it had accepted millions of dollars from several foreign governments while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, including one donation that violated the foundation's ethics agreement with the Obama administration.


Most of the contributions -- which had not previously been detailed by the foundation -- were possible due to exceptions written into the organizations's 2008 agreement with the White House that limited donations from foreign governments, according to The Washington Post, which first reported the contributions."

AyeAyeSir
AyeAyeSir

@honested 


Read the post and move on.

Don't read the post and move on.

Debate the issue as presented.

Attack the poster.


Your choice as always.

AyeAyeSir
AyeAyeSir

@LeninTime 


Read the post and move on.

Don't read the post and move on.

Debate the issue as presented.

Attack the poster.


Your choice as always.

RaindroidWillBoy
RaindroidWillBoy

@LeninTime @AyeAyeSir


So if you oppose monkey business by a female presidential contestant you are de facto a chauvanist?  Same as suggestions that anyone who opposed BO is a racist.  


Shallow waters..

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@AyeAyeSir I see ayeaye thinks he defines the issue.  The issue is Bill O'Reilly's lies and Fox News's acceptance of them.  Then again, you are just another Fox viewer that loves to be lied to, aren't you.  So, you deflect in order to avoid the glaringly obvious.

JamVet
JamVet

@SFM_Scootter @honested @AyeAyeSir 

Like tht Monty Python character, he feels repressed!

(Come see the violence inherent in the system!!)

Because he too has a long documented history of lying on this forum?

AyeAyeSir
AyeAyeSir

Well, well .............. it looks like another one of Obama's POVERTY STRICKEN Islamic Jihadist terrorists has been identified.


Gee ............... you think it just might have something to do with Radical Islamic ideology ?



"The true identity of the ISIS terrorist known as "Jihadi John," who has appeared in several videos showing the beheading of hostages, reportedly has been revealed.


The Washington Post first reported Thursday, citing friends and human rights workers familiar with the case, that the man's real name is Mohammed Emwazi, a west London man who had been detained by counterterror officials in Britain at least once, in 2010. The paper also reported that Emwazi was born in Kuwait, is from a well-to-do family, graduated from college with a degree in computer programming and is thought to have traveled to Syria sometime in or around 2012."


fedup52
fedup52

@AyeAyeSir  Pray do tell me how many rich people do the actual fighting until unless they are drafted.

td1234
td1234

@AyeAyeSir But, but, but if we just gave them jobs and Obamacare then they would stop hating us and stop the fighting. 

JamVet
JamVet

@fedup52 @AyeAyeSir 

Ralph Nader had the perfect plan for the chickenhawks - Draft from the Top.

All service aged children and grandchildren of elected reps who vote for war would be the very first to be conscripted...

fedup52
fedup52

This O'Reilly/Fox News hit topic is a hit with the cult thinkers. Maybe, Jay can do a piece on baby killing, I mean abortion or global warming. On second thought global warming may not be such a good idea right now even the low information Democrat voters would have a hard time viewing that as a priority issue.

++++

This is just not the lie.  It is the constant drips of lies that is cracking the your fragile psychi that is bothering you.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

Legendary TV talk show host Byron Allen 

Anyone here ever heard of this^^ legend?

td1234
td1234

@TBS @Visual_Cortex Do you have proof that today was the first time I learned about him or are you lying? 

TBS
TBS

@Visual_Cortex


td learned of him this morning when he read the article he posted. 

Bottom line the article mentioned Sharpton and td went right into a Sharptongasm.