Netanyahu is not Israel; Israel is not Netanyahu

netanyahu_AP“I am leaving for Washington on a fateful, even historic mission,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu grandly proclaimed Sunday. “I feel I am the emissary of all Israelis, even those who disagree with me — of the entire Jewish people.”

The former head of the Mossad, Meir Dagan, disagrees. He warns that Netanyahu’s policies are “destructive to the future and security of Israel” and describes the prime minister as “the person who has caused the greatest strategic damage to Israel on the Iranian issue.”

In a Tel Aviv press conference Sunday, retired Gen. Amiram Levin — Netanyahu’s former Army commander and ex-deputy Mossad chief — argued that the speech will weaken Israel and strengthen Iran.

“Iran wants Netanyahu’s speech – since it understands that it will weaken Israel’s bipartisan bond with the US,” Levin said. “For Iran, a strategically weak Israel is an asset which will help Iran’s efforts to obtain nuclear weapons, since they know that it will prevent a viable military option against them.”

In that same press conference, retired Gen. Amnon Reshef, former head of Israeli’s vaunted tank corps, warned that “when the Israeli prime minister argues that his speech will stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, he is not only misleading Israel, he is actually strengthening Iran.”

“The US and its president are not enemies of Israel,” said retired Gen. Ran Ronen, an ace fighter pilot in the Six Day and Yom Kippur wars. “They are its closest allies. A policy that alienates them is not only wrong – but also poses a strategic threat to Israel’s security.”

“I am seeing haughtiness and arrogance, together with more than a bit of the messianic thinking that rushes to turn the conflict into a holy war,” another ex-Mossad chief, Shabtai Shavit, wrote recentlyIf this has been, so far, a local political conflict that two small nations have been waging over a small and defined piece of territory, major forces in the religious Zionist movement are foolishly doing everything they can to turn it into the most horrific of wars, in which the entire Muslim world will stand against us.

“I also see, to the same extent, detachment and lack of understanding of international processes and their significance for us. This right wing, in its blindness and stupidity, is pushing the nation of Israel into the dishonorable position of “the nation shall dwell alone and not be reckoned among the nations” (Numbers 23:9).
In Israel, Netanyahu’s speech tomorrow before Congress is seen by both foes and supporters as a partisan political gambit scheduled just two weeks before an election in which Netanyahu’s Likud Party may be losing ground in the polls.  They certainly do not buy the line that Netanyahu speaks for all Israelis and for all Jews, although he and his allies would like to pretend otherwise before an American audience.

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Bill OrvisWhite
Bill OrvisWhite

Librul Jay is wrong as usual. The honorable Prime Minister Binyomin Netanyahu WILL make an historic speech to the U.S. Congress. PM Netanyahu WILL outline how a jihadist state has already acquired a strong, massive stockpile of traditional, chemical and nuclear weapons which will only BE FAST-TRACKED TO DEVELOPMENT with the help of the Hussein Obama "administration." 


THE FACT IS that the world NEEDS a STRONG DEMOCRATIC STATE in that jihadist neighborhood. WHO BETTER to tamp down Islamo-Fascism than Israel? 


Certainly this once-free nation (America) CANNOT PROTECT DEMOCRATIC INTERESTS IN THAT PART  OF THE WORLD! 


SO, WHY IN THE WORLD ARE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOLKS BOYCOTTING THIS MAN WHO FIGHTS FOR FREEDOM? Good Lord has COMMON SENSE left the building along with the Socialist Democrat Party of America. 


Amen,


Bill 

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

"U.S. 2.4% Economic Growth In 2014 Strongest Since Recession"


Looks like we'll have to blame those meany ole Republicans for their 2013 actions that triggered it all- the ending of unemployment benefits.


"But perhaps one of the most perverse distortions comes from unemployment benefits. Economists argue that these can provide an incentive for people simply not to work. Indeed, a new NBER working paper by Marcus Hagedorn, Iourii Manovskii, and Kurt Mitman estimates that the abrupt end of unemployment benefit extensions led to 1.8 million additional new US jobs created in 2014."


Thank you national bureau of economic research. 


http://c0.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/w20884.pdf

honested
honested

@Doom Classical liberal 

Well of course we should blame them!

Things were on track for 3.6-4.0% before the ill conceived republiklan 'sequester'.

It amazes me that republiklans can completely ignore their obvious, total failures while attempting to co-opt credit for the success of the real leaders.

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

Paul,

Did anyone ever say how Marines we were going to need to force the Canadians to build the Keystone Pipeline for us?

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

"2 trillion job infrastructure projects."

Temporary jobs.  Just like building a pipeline.  We don't want those temporary jobs.

honested
honested

@_GodlessHeathen_ 

Just build the pipeline in a circle, with all of it in Canada.

Then suggest they build their own refinery to make high sulfur diesel for the Chinese.

LeninTime
LeninTime

 Western media reaction to Nemtsov’s murder is ‘absolutely outrageous’‘Another occasion for West to use its propaganda bullet’

Derek Monroe, reporter for Foreign Policy in Focus, also suggests the murdered politician was a marginal figure in Russia.

“I think generally what’s taking place right here is basically elevating the position of Mr. Nemtsov as a prominent critic and opponent of President Putin, when the truth is he was a very marginal political figure in Russia. One with a rather checkered past if you look at his tenure under Yeltsin as well as his role as an economic advisor to the Ukrainian government under Yushchenko. So there’s a degree of political provocation that would put the blame on Putin and the Kremlin or some forces associated with that. However, it’s all based on speculation propaganda, so I wouldn’t really pay any heed to that.”

http://rt.com/op-edge/236605-nemtsov-murder-western-media/ 

honested
honested

@LeninTime 

Hopefully this will lead the small handful of russians who are not bloodthirsty barbarians to dispose of putin permanently.

gotalife
gotalife

Our rw worship putin and bibi.


Yes that is highly dangerous, reckless and irresponsible.


gop politics as usual.

josef
josef

LENIN


I see our expert on Russian literature has cut class again.  LOL

gotalife
gotalife

You cry about 9 million Americans out of work and have no jobs bill?


We need 4 % growth.


Get to work lazy gop.

gotalife
gotalife

Disrespect bibi with screams of where are the jobs speaker?


Fair game.

Penses
Penses

@Paul42 


"So... if mankind is not inherently good, who's the buffer?  Who does the protecting from men and the organizations they run to make their livings and acquire power, if not the peoples' representatives in the government?"


I am not anti-government, but anti-gargantuan governement and anti-unaccountable government. Understand now?

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

@Penses @Paul42 "I am not anti-government, but anti-gargantuan governement and anti-unaccountable government. Understand now?"

Well you can't be that way.  Either you want the liberals' government or you want no government and anarchy.  (sarc)

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

@_GodlessHeathen_ @Penses @Paul42


"Either you want the liberals' government or you want no government and anarchy."


Who wouldn't be in support of the speedy efficiency and wondrous innovation that big gubment bureaucracies bring us. 

gotalife
gotalife

Regime change in Isreal.


2 trillion job infrastructure projects.


Pass a budget to fund government for two years.


Get off the golf course speaker and get to work worst speaker ever.


gotalife
gotalife

Ex-Mossad chief Meir Dagan to headline anti-Netanyahu rally Dagan, who called Netanyahu's policies 'destructive to the future and security of Israel,' will speak at rally demanding regime change at Tel Aviv's Rabin Square.

Bulls_3y3
Bulls_3y3

@gotalife Did you know that Obama staffers are attending the same anti-Bibi rally.  Imagine that Obama supporting regime change.  What a flake

Bulls_3y3
Bulls_3y3

@gotalife  yea, but Obama is involving the America in the overthrow of a Prime Minister... Believe that is against the LAW.  Oh never mind, Obama will just use his pen

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

 Lol. What does reading the works of Dostoyevsky have to do with the crisis at hand in Russia? 


*Sigh*

josef
josef

@Penses @HeadleyLamar 


Oh, not only those 19th Century ones required in high school lit, he's read a few of the more contemporary ones, too...


LENIN, see below!  LOL

AyeAyeSir
AyeAyeSir

LIAR IN CHIEF


Washington Post:  "Obama’s claim that Keystone XL oil ‘bypasses the U.S.’ earns Four Pinocchios"


"President Obama, seeking to explain his veto of a bill that would have leapfrogged the approval process for the Keystone XL pipeline, in an interview with a North Dakota station repeated some false claims that had previously earned him Pinocchios. Yet he managed to make his statement even more misleading than before, suggesting the pipeline would have no benefit for American producers at all.


When Obama first started making the claim that the crude oil in the Keystone pipeline would bypass the United States, we wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios — and strongly suggested he take the time to review the State Department report.


Clearly, the report remains unread."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/03/02/obamas-claim-that-keystone-xl-oil-bypasses-the-u-s-earns-four-pinocchios/?postshare=7921425299882174

LeninTime
LeninTime

@AyeAyeSir

Endlessly obsessed, unable to see beyond a president. Completely One. Tracked. Mind.

gotalife
gotalife

@LeninTime @AyeAyeSirYeah and the gop lied about the number of jobs. So? Where are the infrastructure job bills failures? Worst speaker ever can't even govern his house.

Paul42
Paul42

@AyeAyeSir

FIGMO already covered that.  You could at least scan through the 'load more comments" section.

"As we have noted before, when the president says “it bypasses the United States,” he leaves out a very important step. The crude oil would travel to the Gulf Coast, where it would be refined into products such as motor gasoline and diesel fuel (known as a distillate fuel in the trade). Current trends suggest that only about half of that refined product would be exported, and it could easily be lower."

Article relied on "
suggesting the pipeline would have no benefit for American producers at all."

Suggesting there would be "NO" benefit?  Interesting foundation.

We will refine it.  We will use some of it.  A whole lot of it is going right onto tankers and shipped overseas.

Republicans rejected legislation that would have kept the refined products here.

TransCanada thanks them.  The Canadian government and people thank them.  Especially for not making them build it.

KUTGF
KUTGF

@AyeAyeSir  Oy vey.....birther box 23/26 is upset with another claim while sticking with his own lies. 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

"Our investigation has led us to conclude that only people living abroad could be interested in killing Politkovskaya...Forces interested in de-stabilising the country, in stoking crisis...in discrediting the national leadership, provoking external pressure on the country, could be interested in this crime. Anna Politkovskaya knew who ordered her killing. She met him more than once.


Putin is using that same excuse now with his recent murder of an opposition voice. He knows this playbook well. 


"This journalist was indeed a sharp critic of the present Russian authorities...but the degree of her influence over political life in Russia was extremely insignificant. She was well-known in journalistic circles, among human rights activists, in the West. I repeat, her influence over political life in Russian was minimal.[28] And in my opinion murdering such a person certainly does much greater damage from the authorities’ point of view, authorities that she strongly criticized, than her publications ever did."[


You see he can say " Why would I kill that person,,,,That would just make me look guilty !!!! "

LeninTime
LeninTime

@HeadleyLamar

Putin is using that same excuse now with his recent murder of an opposition voice. He knows this playbook well. 

***
Patently ludicrous. Despite the feverish attempts in the Western media to resuscitate Nemtsov after death into something he clearly was not: namely a major threat and challenger to Putin, the fact remains that there appears to be nothing whatsoever for Putin to gain by having this minor figure, whose party didn't even garner sufficient votes for a seat in the Duma, gunned down just steps from the Kremlin.

Paul42
Paul42

@Kamchak

I've said it before and I'll say it again:  see what happens in a few short months when the American public gets rid of a socialist with no experience who hates America and replaces him with a real American with business experience who loves his country and understands how to run things and who has the confidence of business leaders and the American people?

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@Bulls_3y3 @gotalife And President Bush didn't listen to General Eric Shinseki, either.  But Shinseki  was proven to be right.


If you've got a problem with Presidents not listening to military brass, at least be honest about it.  If you can, that is.


Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@Bulls_3y3 @Tuna Meowt @gotalife "Honest???"


Ayup.  You're either dishonest or misinformed.


"Bottom feeder, I was very direct about my issue with the president."


And I'm telling you that President Bush had much the same issue with several generals, among them Ric Shinseki, who got himself fired by daring to tell the President that he'd need to at least *double* the number of boots on the ground in Iraq.  Bush didn't want to hear it, but Shinseki's claim was proven during the "surge."


Several other generals landed in the hot seat, too, including a couple who were busted for rigging tests of body armor so that a favored contractor wouldn't risk losing out to an upstart company with a unique and novel new design for body armor that generally worked better..


"go away little fishy"


Your request has been denied.


Paul42
Paul42

@Bulls_3y3

You really, really do not understand the constitution or the role of the military, do you?

Rhetorical question.  The answer is self-evident.

LeninTime
LeninTime

@LeninTime@HeadleyLamar It speaks to the Russian mindset.

***
It's interesting that you bring up Dostoyevsky, though, actually because in a way, it is relevant. 

There is the age old tension inside of Russia between its gravitation towards Europe/the West and a separate tendency to remain in its own sphere. 

In one way, that is very much relevant in the turmoil now gripping Russia. 


Penses
Penses

@Paul42


"You don't think administrative law is real law?"


Real in what sense? I have never imagined Plessy v. Ferguson was "real law". Nor did I  ever imagine the Nuremberg Laws of Nazi germany to be "real laws". Did you?


"Try violating some EPA regs and see what fines or jail time you'll be subject to."


See above.

"Congress created the process because they can barely get bills passed.  There is absolutely no way they could write all the implementing procedures and flesh out and update language in the originating bills."


Let me get this straight: you are saying it is humanly impossible for Congress to write their own comprehensive and detailed laws? Or are you saying something like "they are all drug addicts, so you can't blame them for using drugs"?

"They are free to update anytime they want.  It's part of the control they exert, to reestablish Congressional intent."


I expect a lot from people in Congress. To him who has been given much, much will be expected. I really hope that is what you are saying.

Paul42
Paul42

@Penses

You answered my question.  You do not understand administrative law.

Your local college likely has a course in it.  It would be worth your while.

Penses
Penses

@Tuna Meowt


I understand that. That doesn't make it "right". I don't think it should exist, because adminstrators do not really have Constitutional authority to make law. Congress should do its own work and not "outsource" it to functionaries. 

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@Paul42 @Penses In short, Penses, administrative law (often the rules and regulations promulgated by the various "Alphabet Agencies" like the FAA, the FCC and others) is just as valid and just as enforceable as legislative law.


And you can be just as penalized for breaking administrative law as you can be for breaking legislative (also known as statutory) law.


Paul42
Paul42

@Penses

Understood.  But as you'd understand from a course, the sheer volume, specialized knowledge, changing circumstance, constant reviews, etc etc etc would make Congress doing it all unworkable.

At best, they'd expand their staffs to replace the tens of thousands of bureaucrats and have them do it.  Which is no different, really, from what you now object to.

Penses
Penses

@Paul42


That is because they are all, in a biblical sense, fools. Jesus summed up the entire law in the Old Testament by saying one needed to love God and love his neighbor as himself. It is the congressional "Pharisees" who put heavy loads on people they are unwilling to lift a finger to help and who strain out gnats to swallow camels. Even Einstein believed everything should be made as simple as possible. Needless to say, there are not many geniuses running around in Congress or the White House. 



Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@Penses @Tuna Meowt "I understand that. That doesn't make it "right". 


That does make it *legal,* though.


"I don't think it should exist, because adminstrators do not really have Constitutional authority to make law. Congress should do its own work and not "outsource" it to functionaries."


Congress does it simply because the world has become increasingly complex and because experts in the fields covered by the alphabet agencies can't just be compelled to come work for the government.


I will point out, however, that sometimes, these agencies come into being because the industries regulated by them WANT the development and imposition of national standards; that was certainly the case when radio broadcasters petitioned the government to regulate radio in the 1920s.  The Federal Radio Commission of that day became the FCC of today.


Penses
Penses

@Tuna Meowt


"That does make it *legal,* though."


As I implied in my initial post, the Nuremberg Laws were, in fact, "legal". But they were not, in my view, "real" (that is, legitimate).


"Congress does it simply because the world has become increasingly complex and because experts in the fields covered by the alphabet agencies can't just be compelled to come work for the government."


The world is not, in my view, any more complex than it ever was. Greater knowledge is, in itself, not a cause of complexity. Confusion, perhaps, but not complexity. People still murder, rape, lie, steal and commit adultery. The sun also sets and rises. A ball thrown into the air still falls to the ground. Solomon wrote that there is nothing new under the sun. And, in terms of human and natural behavior, that is true. Laws apply to human behavior. The only thing that has become more complex is the idiotic laws written by lawyers who would have been pillored by Jonathan Swift a few centuries ago.