A correction to an earlier Braves stadium post

I got some of the details wrong in my recent post about additional tax incentives for the new Braves stadium in Cobb County, and those details are probably important enough to deserve a separate post to correct.

Contrary to my original post, the Braves will not be applying for incentives through the state Tourism Development Act, which would allow them to collect rebates on sales tax revenues generated by their project. Instead, they are seeking an exemption on the state sales tax that would be charged on materials used in the stadium’s construction.

I hate getting things wrong, but this time I did.

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FIGMO2
FIGMO2

An acknowledgement of wrongdoing without an apology? Your liberals have no use for one without the other.

schnirt 

JamVet
JamVet

For td, the GOP's enduring legacy of racism...

You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*gger, n*gger, n*gger.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*gger”—that hurts you, backfires. 

So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… 

“We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*gger, n*gger.” ~Lee At-water, former Senior adviser to Richard Nixon, 1981


DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

Dozens dead in twin suicide attacks in Yemen as fighting between Muslim groups intensifies

Obama's success story.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@DownInAlbany Aw come on now, why don't y'all ever want to give W credit where credit is due? He and his pappy broke it and never really could figure out how to fix it. 

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@DownInAlbany And you're not selling popcorn on the sidelines and cheering?  I would have thought that Muslim-on-Muslim violence was right up your alley.


consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@Tuna Meowt JHC . . . what good would that do, besides buy some execs new houses when the (unfunded) replacement orders get placed . . . 

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

Federal Judge Admonished DOJ Over Apparent Deception: ‘I Was Made to Look like an Idiot’

JamVet
JamVet

Slamvet was being his normal bigoted self and had to be put back in his place. 

By this sad strange little man who takes no responsibility, denies everything and obfuscates?

Niiiice!

The man's arguments about race are as twisted as could possibly be.

After all, look at who he supported, enabled and coddled here, the self avowed RACIST and all around despicable human being, trish. (She's a con, doncha know? And the 11th Commandment is in play.)

But ask the weirdo and he'll tell you that she was no racist.

Nuff said about this bizarre, brainwashed,  Republican...

DunwoodyGranny
DunwoodyGranny

TD, conservative Democrats in Georgia never worked with blacks to get things done. The whole reason conservative Democrats changed parties is that in the 60s liberal Democrats started working with blacks to get things done. Like overturn Jim Crow laws and poll taxes and voting restrictions the conservatives had put in place for a reason.

Reagan made a conscious appeal to Southern conservatives to abandon the Democratic party. Many of them did, even though their grandpappies would have been rolling over in their graves at the idea of their descendants joining the party of Lincoln.

td1234
td1234

@DunwoodyGranny So what you are trying to say is that from the 60's to 2000 it was the coalition of Liberal whites and blacks that ran the state of Georgia? That goes totally against everything most progressives have called Georgia government.   

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@td1234 they didn't want to change the Jim Crow laws . . . they were forced to . . . by the Feds.

JamVet
JamVet

@consumedconsumer @td1234 

That's news to me!

It was conservatives who were the Freedom Riders and liberals who beat the hell out of them.

It was conservatives who marched with MLK and the other heroic champions of civil rights and Equal Justice Under Law and liberals who threw rocks at them.

It was conservatives who challenged the old white supremacist guard and liberals who encouraged them.

It was three young conservatives who were murdered by liberals in Mississippi.

History - td style...

DunwoodyGranny
DunwoodyGranny

No, what I'm trying to say is that blacks have had to make common cause with liberal Democrats because conservatives did their level best to keep them out of the political system at all.

td1234
td1234

@DunwoodyGranny If Conservatives ran the state, like most progressives have claimed, then it would have been Conservatives that would have had to want to change those Jim Crow laws or they would not have been changed by just the black vote with liberal whites. 

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@Tuna Meowt

I think the ideal punishment for O'Keefe would be for him to be "captured" on video doing something very wrong and shameful and to lose all kinds of support and whatnot...

Only for a very few political junkie types to learn much later that the video was taken horribly out of context, that he was misrepresented and edited to look much much worse than he ever really was, but that there was really nothing anyone could do at this point to restore whatever reputation he might have ever had.

That would be perfect, yes?

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@Visual_Cortex @Tuna Meowt I had *thought* that was going to happen with the voter fraud case he got himself wrapped up in a couple of years ago, but no dice.


Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@Tuna Meowt @Visual_Cortex

 the voter fraud case he got himself wrapped up in a couple of years 

Oh I was thinking something far more base and disgusting than that.

I'm talking some kind of never-proved-but-assumed-by everyone horror, like human trafficking, child molestation ring, that sort of thing. The kind of slime that would never go away, where he'd be reduced to working some kind of low-rent gig under an assumed name.

(I was going to add "preferably in some other country" but really, what'd that other country ever do to us to deserve such a gift... )

DunwoodyGranny
DunwoodyGranny

>>As far the BS about blacks and conservatives, conservatives ran the Democratic party in Georgia for 100 years and blacks worked with them to get things done so your whole argument is BS. <<

How old are you, td? This suggests to me that you are probably 40 or under.

DunwoodyGranny
DunwoodyGranny

I'm thinking he's too young to remember how things used to be, so he has invented a picture. That's the only way I can think of to come up with something so farfetched.

td1234
td1234

@DunwoodyGranny Over 40 but less than 50. It is about moving into the reality of today and not living in the past. 

Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

"As far as blacks supporting or not supporting Republicans then that is their stupidity"

And when you show such disrepect as to call Black people "blacks" and then say they are stupid...WHY should they vote for your party?

td1234
td1234

@Doggone_GA Do not vote for Republicans (especially in Southern states) and not have any power. See how stupid it is? 

Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

@td1234 @Doggone_GA So your answer is still that they are stupid?  No wonder they're smart enough not to vote the way YOU think they should.

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@Doggone_GA @td1234 I find it funny that the principled Republican would suggest that the way ahead for "the blacks" is to sell out.  At least I am not surprised at some of the comments I read any more.  It's like Faux News, once you know what they are, their shockingly awesome willingness to be fairly unbalanced is no longer cause for pulling out the fainting couch.

td1234
td1234

@Numbers_R_Us "Sell out" What are blacks joining the Republican party "selling out"? Are people not suppose to be able to think for themselves and do what is in the best interest of themselves and their family? 

td1234
td1234

VC Writes: ..the heck does that have to do with what td posted?

Do you not find it somewhat hilarious that he actually chose to brag about a Presidential candidate only receiving 11% of a particular demographic's vote?

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And if you did not take the conversation out of context and applied a little reading comprehension skills then you would understand why the comment was made. Slamvet was being his normal bigoted self and had to be put back in his place. 


As far as blacks supporting or not supporting Republicans then that is their stupidity to block vote because the people they vote for no matter what will ignore them and the other side will ignore them because they know nothing they can do will get their vote. Lose, lose situation. 

HeadleyLamar
HeadleyLamar

@td1234 

As far as blacks supporting or not supporting Republicans then that is their stupidity

Actually its the GOP’s policies.

Southern Conservatives have long discriminated against the black man.

And he is well aware of it.

Hey maybe calling blacks stupid instead of moochers will get their votes LOL.

The Repubican party is almost entirely white not because of Black and Asian and Jewish and Hispanic stupidity.

Its because of WHO THEY ARE.

td1234
td1234

@HeadleyLamar It was stupid just like it was stupid for whites to vote for Deal in the primary because they knew exactly how crooked her would be if re-elected. What has Blacks not voting for Republicans done for their ability in Georgia to get anything accomplished on their agenda? 


As far the BS about blacks and conservatives, conservatives ran the Democratic party in Georgia for 100 years and blacks worked with them to get things done so your whole argument is BS. 



DunwoodyGranny
DunwoodyGranny

Kinda like Georgians voting for Republicans. One of the reasons candidates don't campaign here.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@td1234 "the other side will ignore them because they know nothing they can do will get their vote."


That's all well and good, but it is the excuse the GOP uses for not bothering to try at all.


Had the GOP started trying when I first voted (for Reagan (in 1980), then IMO the African-American vote would not be as monolithic as it is today.  The GOP has to *try* before black votes will come its way in large numbers.  Not bothering to try is simply acceptance of the status quo.


HeadleyLamar
HeadleyLamar

@td1234 @HeadleyLamar What has Blacks not voting for Republicans done for their ability in Georgia to get anything accomplished on their agenda?

A lot more than voting Republncan would have.

Yeah I guess its everybody elses fault ( they are stupid )  of just some big coincidence the GOP is almost entrely white

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

td1234
td1234

@Tuna Meowt It is a two way street. When Blacks come to Republican party and espouse Conservative values then they are not only welcomed but rewarded. Look at Tim Scott in SC. True Tea Party conservative and has now been elected Senator in one of the most conservative states in the country. Mia Love is another prime example.  

td1234
td1234

@HeadleyLamar You do understand the difference in making a stupid decision and being stupid? 


Yea, I did not think so. 

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@td1234 @Tuna Meowt " It is a two way street."


No.  It's not.  You want blacks to get behind the GOP, full stop, without any preconceptions or proffered emoluments.


"When Blacks come to Republican party and espouse Conservative values then they are not only welcomed but rewarded."


In other words, they get "free stuff?"  Haven't you conservatroids been beaching about Obama promising free stuff to the Poors, and that's how he got elected?  Yet here you are CLAIMING THE GOP WILL DO THE SAME THING.  You're effing PATHETIC.


"Look at Tim Scott in SC. True Tea Party conservative and has now been elected Senator in one of the most conservative states in the country. Mia Love is another prime example."


So ANY black person that joins the GOP will be offered a chance to run for office?  Is that what you expect me to believe?


Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

@td1234 @HeadleyLamar the problem is that YOU don't seem to know the difference: "that is their stupidity"

That is NOT calling their decisions stupid...it is calling THEM stupid.  Try reading what you write BEFORE you post it.

td1234
td1234

@Tuna Meowt "You want blacks to get behind the GOP, full stop, without any preconceptions or proffered emoluments." 


Yes, just like anyone else that comes to the party, working together to lower taxes and have minimal government intrusion but when intrusion is necessary then it has the mores, values and ethics of the members of the party ingrained in the intrusion. 


Anyone is able to run for political office. Expectations are given and when a person lives up to the expectations then they have EARNED the vote of the members. 



Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@td1234 @Tuna Meowt "Anyone is able to run for political office. Expectations are given and when a person lives up to the expectations then they have EARNED the vote of the members."


And this is why African-Americans do not vote for Republicans in any significant numbers.


Because your party has not EARNED their votes.  Two-way street there, BEACH.


Dismissed.


Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@td1234

And if you did not take the conversation out of context and applied a little reading comprehension skills then you would understand why the comment was made. Slamvet was being his normal bigoted self and had to be put back in his place

I understood the context perfectly well, and in fact the remark is even funnier if the context is explained. 

Didn't really have the time, but thanks!

td1234
td1234

@Tuna Meowt And exactly how has Democrats EARNED the votes of Blacks? 

Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

@td1234 @Doggone_GA @HeadleyLamar Guess again.  it's just so sad when someone can't even comprehend what they themselves are saying.

"their stupidity" refers to a state of mind

"their stupid decisions" refers to a choice

Guess which one YOU used?

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@td1234 @Tuna Meowt By pressing the questions of civil rights, of voting rights, of equal rights.  By not advancing that laughable notion that we're a post-racist society.


You want to know why?  Ask an African-American man or woman over age 50.  Maybe you'll freakin' LEARN SOMETHING.


td1234
td1234

@Doggone_GA Yes, having the state of mind that it is selling out to vote for a Republicans is making a stupid decision.