Events in Indiana, Georgia prove the world has changed

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It is hard to overstate the complete and total retreat that has occurred in the state of Indiana.

A state law that its supporters originally celebrated on the grounds that it created a legal loophole for discriminating against gay Americans will now be revised to do the exact opposite. An effort to legalize discrimination under the guise of religious freedom has backfired spectacularly.

Earlier this morning, Republican leaders of both the state House and Senate announced legislative language amendment that states explicitly that Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act cannot be used to justify anti-gay discrimination of any kind, from employment to housing to business. The amendment also states point blank that Indiana’s RFRA cannot be used as a legal defense in any civil or criminal court proceeding involving anti-gay discrimination. As a result, local ordinances that already protect gay citizens from discrimination cannot be evaded by claims of religious liberty.

Just as important, of course, the amendment also states explicitly that while the anti-discrimination provisions apply to individuals and businesses, they do not apply to churches and other religious non-profit institutions, including religious schools. Nor does it apply to any “rabbi, priest, preacher, pastor or designee of a church or other nonprofit religious organization.” If religious leaders or religious institutions believe that such discrimination is required by their faith, they will remain free to honor that faith, as they should be.

As was noted at a press conference this morning, the amended law will represent the first time that the words “sexual orientation or gender identity” become part of Indiana law. Perhaps even more importantly, state GOP legislative leaders publicly committed themselves to seek additional legislation that would give gay citizens of Indiana the same civil rights protections that are already available on the basis of race, religion, age and disability.

“Indiana is open for business,” as House Speaker Brian Bosma said. “We welcome everyone; we discriminate against no one.”

Here in Georgia, a similar effort to use the cause of religious liberty to justify anti-gay discrimination has also apparently failed. In part because of events in Indiana, it looks as though SB 129 will not be brought to a vote on the floor of the House, and the boasts of those who melodramatically promised to produce a legislative cataclysm unless they got their way will prove to be all sound and fury, signifying nothing. They sought this fight as a demonstration of their political strength, and in conservative Georgia in a conservative General Assembly, it so far appears as if they lost that fight.

That says a lot.

 

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Joyce Martin
Joyce Martin

Great post, Thanks for sharing it. I have been going to Columbus in next week, I have no idea which Events in Georgia are most popular.Your information will be helpful to me . 


Corey
Corey

 fiftythreepercenter 4 hours ago 

There is a term for that huge group born between 1946 and 1964 I think it's called "baby boomers" and they are retiring in droves. Check with Social Security and find out the increase in applications for benefits, couple that with people no longer having to work jobs they hate so they can have a health insurance policy. Don't get a headache but try to make the connection to those factors contributing to a decline in workplace participation.


gotalife
gotalife

Want to hold pols accountable and end the trickle down scam?


About time.

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

Details on the Iran agreement are coming out.  From the WSJ:

"Iran has also agreed not to enrich uranium to a level above 3.67% for 15 years, significantly lower than the 90% purity needed for weapons grade material. That limitation was stronger than expected."

JamVet
JamVet

Numberless have been the systems of iniquity The most refined, sublime, extensive, and astonishing constitution of policy that ever was conceived by the mind of man was framed by the Romish clergy for the aggrandizement of their own Order They even persuaded mankind to believe, faithfully and undoubtingly, that God Almighty had entrusted them with the keys of heaven, whose gates they might open and close at pleasure ... with authority to license all sorts of sins and Crimes ... or withholding the rain of heaven and the beams of the sun; with the management of earthquakes, pestilence, and famine; nay, with the mysterious, awful, incomprehensible power of creating out of bread and wine the flesh and blood of God himself. All these opinions they were enabled to spread and rivet among the people by reducing their minds to a state of sordid ignorance and staring timidity, and by infusing into them a religious horror of letters and knowledge. Thus was human nature chained fast for ages in a cruel, shameful, and deplorable servitude....
   Of all the nonsense and delusion which had ever passed through the mind of man, none had ever been more extravagant than the notions of absolutions, indelible characters, uninterrupted successions, and the rest of those fantastical ideas, derived from the canon law, which had thrown such a glare of mystery, sanctity, reverence, and right reverend eminence and holiness around the idea of a priest as no mortal could deserve ... the ridiculous fancies of sanctified effluvia from episcopal fingers.
-- John Adams, "A Dissertation on the Canon and the Feudal Law," printed in the Boston Gazette, August 1765

td1234
td1234

@HeadleyLamar And where did you see that the co-pilot was a Christian? I thought I read he was a atheist. 

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

@HeadleyLamar


Aaah. So he crashed that plane in the name of Christianity? Or because he was mentally ill?


That's about the worst and dumbest comparison you could ever make. Not surprising though that you would try and invoke religion into a mentally ill person committing suicide and taking a few hundred people with him. And how do you know he was even Christian? From what I've seen his religion is "unknown".

KUTGF
KUTGF

But support for the agreement also came from an unusual source: Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly.

Appearing on the conservative network just minutes after President Barack Obama held a news conference in the White House Rose Garden laying out the broad outlines for how the United States hopes to limit Tehran’s nuclear capabilities, O’Reilly — a harsh critic of Obama’s foreign policy — argued that conservatives should give diplomacy a chance.

“You don’t want a war with Iran,” he explained. “You don’t want to bomb that country because the unintended consequences will set the world aflame. So if you can get something that’s decent, you give it a shot. I think that’s a legitimate point,” O’Reilly said to a surprised Gretchen Carlson, host of the network’s daytime show, The Real Story.

O’Reilly also warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against immediately rejecting the compromise, counseling the long-time opponent of talks to wait and see “specifically what the Iranians are going to agree to.”

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That's gonna leave a mark.   

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@KUTGF Ill give him credit if he actually follows through


i've seen him say things like that only to turn around in short order and declare the issue at hand a failure.


And use his previous statements as "proof" he gave it a chance. 

gotalife
gotalife

The mortgage scam was like the Atlanta cheating scam but they were not black and not led away in cuffs.


There was plenty of blame to go around including congress and gse's.

straker
straker

53% - "people who sit behind their keyboard whining about being left behind"


Well, see, many who do that here are actually adolescent home schooled kids trying to play at being grownup.

KUTGF
KUTGF

That is the kind of timetable Obama and his spokespeople have been deriding for years as uninformed scaremongering, but now it turns out that wasa reasonable estimate after all?

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Well except of course that the now Breitidiot site claims do not at all show what the "estimates" were and when made.  But of course, try to pull one out of your arse.   

Eustis
Eustis

Today, it's florists


Reminds me of the 60's when many eateries said they would close before serving blacks in the main dining room.


Recall  that Virginia county that closed its public schools rather than integrate.

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

Iran Triumphant: Nuclear Deal Capitulates To Nearly All Iranian Demands

One curious detail that stood out from the President’s remarks was his assertion that, without this deal, Iran might have been only 2 to 3 monthsaway from having a nuclear weapon.  That is the kind of timetable Obama and his spokespeople have been deriding for years as uninformed scaremongering, but now it turns out that wasa reasonable estimate after all?

Obama tried comparing his nuclear deal to Reagan’s arms negotiations with the Soviet Union, which spotlights the most dangerous thing about Obama’s Iran policy: he really thinks the mullahs represent the sort of sane, relatively responsible (if rather aggressive) government, interested in stability and material prosperity, that liberals love to recall their dear departed Soviets as.  Note also that liberals most certainly did not think Reagan’s dealings with the Soviets were a model of American statecraft to be emulated at the time.

This is all theater, while the reality of Iranian nuclear weapons moves forward… brought to you by the man who swore in his 2012 re-election campaign that he’d never let it happen, under any circumstances.

Update, 3:30 PM: Just a few minutes after President Obama’s Rose Garden speech listing one sunset expiration date after another for Iran’s nominal concessions, Secretary of State John Kerry told reporters there were no sunset provisions in the deal.  It sounds like either the Administration is confused about what they just agreed to, or Kerry and his shop have decided the “sunset” concept is politically troublesome, so they’re trying to redefine what the term means.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/02/iran-triumphant-nuclear-deal-capitulates-to-nearly-all-iranian-demands/

Paul42
Paul42

@DownInAlbany

" he really thinks the mullahs represent the sort of sane, relatively responsible (if rather aggressive) government, interested in stability and material prosperity"

There's  reason stuff like that is called 'red meat.'  

It elicits reactions from its audience without their thinking.

Good to see this deal was actually written down, though.  Unlike earlier reports - 

gotalife
gotalife

The bailouts stopped the millions of jobs being lost and had to stabilize the system. It worked and now the fight continues to help the rest of the American people. Your taxes were cut to offset health insurance costs. Your job market is back to full employment. Your safety net has not been cut. A lot of changes since the collapse including reform.

straker
straker

Visual - "people shafted by the wealthy"


That happens every day in America.

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

@straker Seems to happen a lot more to people who sit behind their keyboard whining about being left behind by evil corporations instead of working.  Funny that....

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

If anyone is interested in an actual Obama administration scandal.


http://www.salon.com/2015/03/31/barney_frank_drops_a_bombshell_how_a_shocking_anecdote_explains_the_financial_crisis/


TARP was doled out in two tranches of $350 billion each. The Bush administration, still in charge during TARP’s passage in October 2008, used none of the first tranche on mortgage relief, nor did Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson use any leverage over firms receiving the money to persuade them to lower mortgage balances and prevent foreclosures. Frank made his anger clear over this ignoring of Congress’ intentions at a hearing with Paulson that November. Paulson argued in his defense, “the imminent threat of financial collapse required him to focus single-mindedly on the immediate survival of financial institutions, no matter how worthy other goals were.”

Whether or not you believe that sky-is-falling narrative, Frank kept pushing for action on foreclosures, which by the end of 2008 threatened one in 10 homes in America. With the first tranche of TARP funds running out by the end of the year, Frank writes, “Paulson agreed to include homeowner relief in his upcoming request for a second tranche of TARP funding. But there was one condition: He would only do it if the President-elect asked him to.”

Frank goes on to explain that Obama rejected the request, saying “we have only one president at a time.” Frank writes, “my frustrated response was that he had overstated the number of presidents currently on duty,” which equally angered both the outgoing and incoming officeholders.

Obama’s unwillingness to take responsibility before holding full authority doesn’t match other decisions made at that time. We know from David Axelrod’s book that the Obama transition did urge the Bush administration to provide TARP loans to GM and Chrysler to keep them in business. So it was OK to help auto companies prior to Inauguration Day, just not homeowners.


(looking forward to hearing this article's author interviewed here, btw:)

http://majority.fm/2015/04/02/42-david-dayen-barney-frank%E2%80%99s-bombshell-clown-car-update/

KUTGF
KUTGF

@Visual_Cortex @gotalife  The wealthy "moochers" got theirs and you are right, it was a disgusting unfair rant from that clown.  The whole treatment of homeowners under HAMP and the lack of real programs to have helped them from a bubble created by the banks who were intentionally lining their pockets is horrifying (including the robosigning bs). 

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@Visual_Cortex seriously? flog him for many things, but not taking on all the problems before he was sworn in when he really didn't know the full story . . . seems rather weak.

gotalife
gotalife

@Visual_Cortex He was on Bill's show and it is not a scandal. Remember when santrelli raged about helping homeowners and the tea party was hatched.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@consumedconsumer @Visual_Cortex

This Administration's utter lack of concern for homeowners shafted by banks is dusgusting. Have a look at how they handled HAMP, in particular if you doubt me on this.


Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@gotalife @Visual_Cortex

Well no, it's not a burning-up-the-interwebs "scandal" of course. But when history is written, it will show that the wealthiest got bailed out, and the people shafted by the wealthy waited, and waited, and waited, and got crumbs. IF they were lucky.

Remember when santrelli raged about helping homeowners and the tea party was hatched.

My complaint is the polar opposite of that disgusting rant.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@KUTGF @Visual_Cortex @gotalife The housing crisis was a disaster an no Obama did not handle it well. It should be noted the factors leading to the crisis were not of his doing.


Its no excuse but a President has a finite amount of political capital. 


Maybe he felt he needed it elsewhere ( ACA  etc )


DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

@Visual_Cortex Those poor homeowners weren't going to contribute enough to his campaign coffers.

GM and Chrysler on the other hand...

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

@Visual_Cortex @consumedconsumer


"This Administration's utter lack of concern for homeowners shafted by banks is dusgusting."


So the people who took out loans on homes they had no business being able to afford bear no responsibility? None?

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@DownInAlbany @Visual_Cortex Those poor homeowners weren't going to contribute enough to his campaign coffers.


Spare me


Those same "poor homeowners" were characterized as having gotten themselves in over their heads at every turn by the GOP.


How many jobs were saved at GM and Chrysler ?

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

@Visual_Cortex


"But when history is written, it will show that the wealthiest got bailed out, and the people shafted by the wealthy waited, and waited, and waited, and got crumbs."


The wealthy got bailed out? When you have to lie to make a point you really don't have a point. Banks and financial institutions got loans, with several of them having the loans forced on them, and had to repay the loans. I believe all of the Tarp funds have been repaid. Do you really think if all the homeowner loans had been restructured that they would have all been repaid? Seriously?

jezel
jezel

@Visual_Cortex NO NOT INTERESTED...find someone to run in the next presidential election. If you are a  Republican...GOOD LUCK

RaindroidWillBoy
RaindroidWillBoy

@Visual_Cortex @consumedconsumer


I hope this gets the attention it deserves.  The fact that it comes from the uber liberal Salon speaks volumes.  Sadly the same BO apologist and blind defenders will look askance or defend same as with his dishonesty.