When the debate over LGBT rights is anything but theoretical …

Ashley Diamond

Ashley Diamond

The recent debate over gay rights and religious freedom took place on a largely theoretical level, with both sides posing various “what ifs” regarding the horrors that the other side’s position would inflict on theoretical human beings.

For Ashley Diamond, it’s anything but theoretical. Today’s New York Times features a profile of Diamond, a transgender woman from Rome, Ga. who was sentenced to more than 10 years in state prison for burglary, forgery, escape and other charges. Under federal law, Diamond should have been given special protections in prison against rape and abuse, but in a lawsuit filed against the state, she accuses state corrections officials of ignoring those requirements.

The result, she alleges, is seven separate instances of rape, including gang rape, just since 2012. The state also illegally halted hormone treatments that Diamond had taken for the previous 17 years, the suit alleges.

As the Times article documents, Diamond’s own behavior and poor choices put her behind bars. On the other hand, though, she has dealt with things that most of us have trouble even imagining — neither you nor I would ever want to try to walk a mile in her pumps. The experience of feeling trapped from childhood in a body of the opposite gender would be terrifying.

And nothing justifies repeated rape and abuse in a setting in which you are helpless to protect yourself. If the facts alleged in the lawsuit hold up in court, Georgia corrections officials have been cavalierly irresponsible about throwing Diamond into the general prison population, knowingly exposing her to guaranteed physical violence. They should be held accountable for their actions, just as Diamond has been.

 

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RoseUp
RoseUp

"She" has dealt with things that most of us have trouble even imagining — neither you nor I would ever want to try to walk a mile in "her" pumps. The experience of feeling trapped from childhood in a body of the opposite gender would be terrifying.


She. Her. LOL, Jay. Yes, the man wears a dress, Jay, but he has a penis. I find it comical the way liberals try to sway public opinion by pretending things are the way they aren't. Calling him a her doesn't make him a her.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

 Come on tards,  say something that's not a lie. I'm not the the great LBB, " that you fu*king nig**rs hate".  Remember, not my words, but a useless libtard,  whose mommy  is a welfare queen, from from Ky.   One and done,  but it must really fry his arsh and libtards , that a better  (white ) individual kicked his arsh.


A real credit to his ideology, this^^ one.

CardiganBoy
CardiganBoy

"As the Times article documents, Diamond’s own behavior and poor choices put her behind bars..."


There's the essence of the matter.  The remainder of the paragraph beginning with the pivot  "... on the other hand ..." is gushy do-gooderism and liberal propaganda designed to foment outrage - not even sympathy for this person. 


The best of luck to Ashley Diamond.  She has many issues to deal with. 


Folks incarcerated are forcibly raped/sodomized all the time.  And that is a tragedy.  There's nothing more tragic about Ashley Diamond's situation  than anybody else who's victimized in such a manner.. That is unless you're desperately searching for a grinder for your political ax.

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@CardiganBoy 

More tragic is what the NYTimes termed the "deliberate defeminizing" of Ashley Diamond by the prison authorities. That must have seemed like the dissolution of identity and self, especially after 17 years of hormone treatment. Rape is physically violent, but that was psychologically violent and more long-lasting in its results.

According to the linked article, Ashley Diamond attempted castration (not many transgendered males undergo an operation to remove their penis, only hormone treatment) and, several times, suicide. That doesn't usually occur after being "forcibly raped/sodomized."

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

Moral of the story: The Department of Corrections is in need of some correcting its ownself.


JKLtwo
JKLtwo

Moral of the story:  Stop breaking the law and you wouldn't have to worry about it.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

"Come on libertard"


Oh, no thank you.  I wouldn't want your case of dumb*ss to rub off on me.


OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@Tuna Meowt 

Could this be the former LilBarryBailout, banned because he kept using the word "libtard" in  his posts??

JoeBobJoe
JoeBobJoe

@OriginalProf @Tuna Meowt Come on tards,  say something that's not a lie. I'm not the the great LBB, " that you fu*king nig**rs hate".  Remember, not my words, but a useless libtard,  whose mommy  is a welfare queen, from from Ky.   One and done,  but it must really fry his arsh and libtards , that a better  (white ) individual kicked his arsh.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

National Statistics on Recidivism

Bureau of Justice Statistics studies have found high rates of recidivism among released prisoners. One study tracked 404,638 prisoners in 30 states after their release from prison in 2005.[1] The researchers found that:

Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.

Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.

Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year.

Property offenders were the most likely to be rearrested, with 82.1 percent of released property offenders arrested for a new crime compared with 76.9 percent of drug offenders, 73.6 percent of public order offenders and 71.3 percent of violent offenders.

If prison is as bad as our liberals say, why do so many folks return?

kayaker71
kayaker71

Over 840K raised in just a little over two weeks in support of Memories Pizza.  Would have probably been 1M if they had not closed out the campaign.  All of the threatening phone calls, death threats and signs of protest outside the store were to no avail.  The good Christian people of Indiana and all over the US raised their middle finger in the air and pointed it straight at the media, TV news reporters, the liberal commentators..... everyone.  Its about time someone stood up to these arseholes. 

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@kayaker71 -- There weren't any death threats and to protest is to take part in an American ritual and right.  Why do you hate American k71?

kayaker71
kayaker71

@DebbieDoRight @kayaker71 I don't,Debbie.  I might ask you the same thing.  They closed their doors because of death threats.  And BTW, the story was written by some cub reporter from a local TV station.  The reporter asked the owners, "Would you serve pizza for a gay wedding".  Answer, No.  Sort of like would you jump off of a bridge, or bungi jump.  There was never a gay couple who solicited the services of Memories Pizza.  Sort of like, Hands up, don't shoot...... never happened.  Just a great place to stir the pot, and create a story in support of LGBTs and others. 

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@kayaker71 @DebbieDoRight @kayaker71 @DebbieDoRight  -- Those "death threats" have not been substantiated by Law Enforcement personnel.  Meaning, while the family may have reported  them, none were recorded by the family and none were made after Law Enforcement took up the investigation.  But in the never ending game of T**t for Tat:

Trolls attack reporter who quoted anti-LGBT pizza shop owner  -- The pizza shop became a flashpoint in the debate over the highly ... by Memories Pizza while seeking a business owner's reaction to the law signed by ... “I just walked into their shop and asked how they feel,” Marino said.

Tuna Meowt
Tuna Meowt

@kayaker71 "The good Christian people of Indiana and all over the US raised their middle finger in the air and pointed it straight at the media, TV news reporters, the liberal commentators..... everyone.  Its about time someone stood up to these arseholes."


If only the "good christian people" of Indiana were as worried about behaving in a Christlike manner, that silly financial exercise need never have happened in the first place.


FWIW, K71, I guarantee you that your putative targets of that metaphorical middle finger don't care what message was being sent. nor did they receive it.


DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@OriginalProf --  (from below) Btw, you have mentioned you're "black," which for the Census means your ancestors derive from sub-Sahara Africa.. and Ethiopians do too.


Ha!  Yes, I know, went to Ethiopia with a class back in 2003; very beautiful country.  My ancestry was done by my brother's wife last year as a present to my Father.  My African Ancestors genetically come from the west coast in an area close to (or in), Benin.  Which a vast majority of people with African descent in America come from.  Ethiopia is on the other side of Africa closer to the Middle East.  

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@DebbieDoRight @OriginalProf 

Very interesting! I think the reason why so many Americans of African descent derive from countries in southern West Africa is because the British and French slave trades were mostly from that side of Africa, being closest to the Americas. The Middle Passage thus took a shorter time to travel.  I know of Ethiopia mainly that it is the only African country that was never colonized by Europe.

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@OriginalProf @DebbieDoRight --  I became interested in Ethiopia because of the mention of the Kingdom in the bible. However I was also astounded to learn that there are quite a few Ethiopian Orthodox Jews that consider themselves one of the "lost tribes" that are descendant from Moses' wanderings.  I was also fascinated by the fact that Ethiopia is said to be the home of the Ark of the Covenant, (given to Solomon's son Mennlinik for safe keeping); and they have burial shrines and crypts like those in Egypt and Nubia and parts of Somalia. 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

I've worked in Prisons on computer systems in the past and I can tell you one absolute truth about them


Every prisoner would rather be somewhere else.


The myth that prisoners have it easy is just that.



straker
straker

Lenin - "is the responsibility of its administrators"


The needs of their corporate sponsors come first and foremost.

Yes_Jesus_Can
Yes_Jesus_Can

To single-out one poor transgendered person as a victim of "homophobia" or "neglect of gay rights" in a horribly corrupt and generally neglected and entirely screwed up penal system badly in need of reform is a bit like spitting into the wind. 

The prison system is screaming for reform, and yet here is a situation where one columnist desperately tries to tie one person to RFRA. 

Utter nonsense. 

Robtown
Robtown

@Yes_Jesus_Can Why not? Wingnuts have tied the need for RFRA to even exist to one person...

LeninTime
LeninTime

@Yes_Jesus_Can 

Jay Bookman is correct to tie the incident to RFRA, the religious RiFfRAff law, and in the wake of that law we can look for more such cases of abuse in the future.

As for the claim that we should ignore the symptoms of gross corruption and mismanagement and only look at the broader phenomenon, that is silly and undialectical. Clearly, one should look at one in the context of the other.

fedup52
fedup52

@Yes_Jesus_Can Looking at the prison system and screwed system I don't your side just sits on the side line and do nothing about.  You scream at the screwed up system is just plane disengenous.

LeninTime
LeninTime

Is @gadem, who openly advocates allowing torture chambers to flourish in prisons - because choice and consequences! law and order! - actually a Democrat or is this just a parody troll?

LeninTime
LeninTime

@Yes_Jesus_Can @LeninTime @gadem 

Playing dumb are we? 

I'm obviously saying that the conditions of a prison - whether violence is allowed to fester - is the responsibility of its administrators - up to and including the government itself - and not those who are imprisoned there.

TomMiddleton
TomMiddleton

She was in prison for a specific set of criminal acts and being transgendered was not one of them, since being transgendered is really quite legal, regardless of what staff may think.

She should be protected and should have been protected all along, for even if illegal, how is being transgendered deserving of rape? In short, nothing is!!!

Yes_Jesus_Can
Yes_Jesus_Can

@gotalife 

US lost role........ thanks in large part to our bamster.

Politics ruins economics.......  and no one ruins it more than bamster. 

Thanks Goat! 

Yes_Jesus_Can
Yes_Jesus_Can

@Normd 

It probably was the devil Norm, but in any case you are too mentally addled to determine. 

TomMiddleton
TomMiddleton

@Normd 

So it's not necessarily religion that's the problem but corrupt religion?  I could not agree more, and let's hope the pope can fix his stuff before we leave them behind!  N/K

Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

@TomMiddleton @Normd It doesn't matter if the Pope can fix it or not...the question is: IF he can, will it STAY fixed after he's gone?

honested
honested

@Normd 

Sanscrotum, going through the 'exploratory process' again.

A symptom there is too much 'foolish money' available to pointless politicians.

TomMiddleton
TomMiddleton

@Doggone_GA @TomMiddleton @Normd 

In this age of mass media and growing individual rights and freedom, there's a huge chance we can not only fix this thing but have it last by putting the people in charge. 

When everyone can have their own direct connection with the spirit of God, as was taught from the beginning, where is there even room for corruption? In short, there isn't any!!!