In Texas attack, a lesson on how extremists thrive

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When Pamela Geller** and her allies organized an “art show” in Texas around the concept of anti-Mohammed cartoons, offering a $10,000 prize, they were hoping to provoke a reaction. They got it.

It didn’t come from the local Islamic community, which studiously ignored the event and refused to give Geller what she wanted. Some even defended Geller’s First Amendment right to hold such an event. But it only takes one or two, and in our interconnected world they are likely to crawl up out of their holes from almost anywhere.

In this case, according to law enforcement, two gunmen from Phoenix took the dangling bait, drove the thousand miles to Garland and attacked the event Sunday night, slightly wounding a security guard before they were killed by local police. Since then, Geller and her group have been riding the publicity generated for their cause.

Now, that doesn’t in any way mitigate the responsibility of the two gunmen and anyone else who may have assisted them. Nor does it in any way justify their use of violence. Nothing justifies any of that. Violence can’t be the answer to speech that you find disagreeable or even reprehensible. A lot of Americans would get upset at the sight of someone desecrating our flag, for example, but that would not justify physical violence. (And if you think it would justify violence, then congratulations, you’ve just gained insight into the mindset of those who attacked Sunday night.)

But let’s be honest. The nut cases at either end of the spectrum are each other’s best allies, prodding and provoking each other in hopes of creating a maelstrom that sucks everybody else into their war. Because then they win. The more anger, fear and other thought-throttling emotions they can stir, the more recruits they will find for their own cause. And if it also generates recruits for the other side, that’s fine too.
Because that too moves us closer to the religious war that they itch to foment.

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** (To those of you unfamiliar with Geller, think of her as the Orly Taitz of anti-Islamic bigotry, except that the birther queen may be slightly more grounded in reality. Among other things, Geller believes President Obama is a plant of the Muslim Brotherhood, an “usurper” out to bring down America from within.)

 

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Peachs
Peachs

Conservatives think they are like the forefathers but in reality they aren’t even close to one generation back. One generation back to me was a television less society, who was put on its ear by Orson Welles once in a generation spoof of alien invaders taken hook and sinker by a generation who believed what they heard on radio.They were humble, obedient, and wouldn’t embarrass you by their wealth. They were fitter, embarrassed to be fat, smarter even if they couldn’t read, religious in their private lives, not show offs in any matter. That was a man I could respect, this modern day conservative are born with inferiority complex, greed, free lance religion, and are more loyal to the jerks they live and hang with than their country as a whole, have multiple families, wives and guns, yet still feel a position to lecture others lifestyle never noticing the other guy generally has it more together than they do.We need a new word for modern day cons, like fools or idiots, in hopes of getting a message across before nature does the disciple itself.

skydog12
skydog12

I hope the new subject is not about gynecology. Orifice boy will go nuts. 

alexander2
alexander2

Filters must not wanted to have offended the cat lovers on this blog....

josef
josef

Shheeettz! Our Boy is here after all...

fedup52
fedup52

Garland Shooting: 'Draw Muhammad' Contest Host Pamela Geller Wants More, Similar Events

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She can take her act to anywhere in Syria or Iraq.  That will teach the jihadists a lesson.

KUTGF
KUTGF

Here’s today’s dose of Nice Time Sticking It To The Man: A Kansas waitress used her last day at work to send a little message to Gov. Sam Brownback, telling him that instead of giving her a tip, it would be much nicer if he could actually fund the state’s schools instead. As exits go, this one definitely tops that flight attendant who said screw y’all and jumped out the emergency slide; it’s right up there with the news anchor who resigned on air by declaring her love for legal weed. ... A couple of folks reminded her that Kansas schools have been closing early this year thanks to Brownback’s budget cuts (necessary for the huge tax cuts that have made Kansas amazingly prosperous, except for how they haven’t), and so Ms. Hough came up with a little addition to Gov. Brownback’s check, X-ing out the tip line and writing “Tip the Schools”.... Hough posted the pic to her MyFace with the caption, “Mic Drop,” which is what the young folks are into these days as part of a general disrespect for audio equipment of all sorts. Local station KSNT also noted that Hough’s sister, who has special needs, has lost several teachers due to the cuts to schools.

Brownback added a very generous 10% tip anyway, which proves that unlike Hillary Clinton, he does tip, just very cheaply. Dude clearly never worked at a restaurant. On the plus side, he didn’t leave one of those bait-and-switch Bible Tracts instead of a tip, so we’ll call it “coulda been worse.”


Read more at http://wonkette.com/584639/hero-waitress-tells-kansas-gov-brownback-exactly-where-to-shove-his-tip-into-schools-duh#kKKMTUWUskjj9WS4.99

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Sometimes people do the darnedest things. 

IReportYouWhine#1
IReportYouWhine#1

@GaGirl53171875 One note: the ACS considers inmates as "living" in their prisons; and Telfair is home to a state prison, so that population may dilute the median income and unemployment numbers.


And that also meansthat the government must be one of the largest employers in Telfair, what a surprise they don't pay good.

alexander2
alexander2

Mary sings and the ilove..., I think the legislature needs to consider reopening Central state...

IReportYouWhine#1
IReportYouWhine#1

The only government program that has cut benefits to the elderly is obamacare, so perhaps we should update our clap trap?

Cupofjoe
Cupofjoe

Someone chose to read an entry from last December on my blog this morning.

Great news-  which sibling?

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

Good morning, all.


Someone chose to read an entry from last December on my blog this morning.  After I re-read it, I thought I would share the last couple of paragraphs here, which include a link to Jay Bookman's blog article on U. S. Republican Congressman Tom Price (who is obtaining growing committee power in Congress):  P.S. to Bruno, "Please, don't take my political perceptions, personally. ;-)"


"The Republicans want to repeal Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare.  Young men and women in their 30s and 40s are dying of cancer, strokes, and heart attacks that usually happen to much older people because of the stresses placed on them by the Republican hierarchial vision of humanity.  This is inhumane treatment of hard working American citizens.


You will, indeed, be foolish if you vote to elect more Republicans to public office throughout our state and nation.  Surely, you have noticed how Republican legislators have all voted in bloc to uphold the puppet masters’ (corporate and legislative Republican leaders) self-serving vision for our nation.  That vision is not democratic.  It is, in fact, inhumane."


Link to the AJC article:

http://jaybookman.blog.ajc.com/2014/12/17/ga-s-tom-price-at-the-nexus-of-ideology-and-policy/

fedup52
fedup52

@MaryElizabethSings Young men and women in their 30s and 40s are dying of cancer, strokes, and heart attacks that usually happen to much older people because of the stresses placed on them by the Republican

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I prefer ISIS inhumane treatment to the Republican one.

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

@MaryElizabethSings MES, you might want to give those rose colored glasses a rest.  Your "everything wrong in the word is Republican's fault" routine is old and, quite frankly, stupid.  If you think the Dems in Washington are one bit less beholden to "corporate" leaders, you're simply choosing to remain ignorant on the issue.  Please stop.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@fiftythreepercenter 


The Democratic leaders, like Hillary Clinton, have a whole different vision for our nation, even if they are "beholden to 'corporate' leaders," as you write.


The Democratic vision is more humane for the middle and working classes in our nation and state.  Be informed and vote, accordingly, readers.


As I wrote yesterday in Jay Bookman's column post regarding the perceived equivalency of the "extremists" in the Right and Left, these forces are not necessarily equivalent.  To try to make them so is lazy thinking, imo (to no one personally).  MLK Jr. was called an extremist in the Jim Crow South.  Guess who actually held the extremist vision in that time and place?  It was not MLK.

RaindroidWillBoy
RaindroidWillBoy

@MaryElizabethSings @fiftythreepercenter


Hilllary Clinton's vision for America is same as all the other BS we've been sold by candidates over the years...improve the middle class. Notice how the middle class is played like fools?


Of course she is a 1%'er, dishonest, and otherwise unfit to be president..

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

@MaryElizabethSings @fiftythreepercenter I too, MES, am very will informed.  The degree of arrogance you exude from your pedestal is really quite astounding.  


Tell me, Mary, what evidence do you have to support your belief that the liberals/socialists in charge of your party will have a positive impact on the poor/middle class?  Is it the last 40 years of the war on poverty that has created a culture of dependence on government handouts that require one to stay poor for fear of losing them?  Is it the stellar lifestyles of the poor and middle class in socialist countries you and your ilk seem to think exists?


You're only about half as "informed" as you think you are, MES.  And the sad part is you have absolutely no intention of fixing that problem.

InTheMiddle2
InTheMiddle2

@MaryElizabethSings "The Republicans want to repeal Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare." When you start with a blatantly wrong, misleading, incorrect statement the rest of you entire argument is meaningless. The GOP wants to repeal the ACA, yes, because it is hurting the middle class and fixes nothing. They are not interested is repealing but fixing SocSec which is going bankrupt.

josef
josef

Dang...just signed on.  Is our IMAM out...how the heck is THAT one getting past...Oy!

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@josef

Is our IMAM out...

Nope, he's obviously here chuckling at the delightful sense of humor on display.

skydog12
skydog12

@josef


Looks like we have been wasting a lot of ##s when we post Pu##y Riot. The blue nose must have slept in this morning after being out with Del cruising behind shopping centers last night.

skydog12
skydog12

@josef @skydog12 @fedup52


We worked it out. We have a diner date at a yet to be decided outdoor cafe. We have to find a place where they are jack hammering within 20 feet.  : )

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

Yes

Basically what Congress did was cut their budget and then insist they not get their bonuses ( which most count as part of their salary ) and not be able to pay their bills and house payments.

I’m sure some of them should have given up their houses to continue service as usual in the face of budget cuts.

fedup52
fedup52

Is putang guy a disguise by Doomy.  It sounds like him.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@Visual_Cortex 

 wouldn't waste his time sockpuppeting under another name.

I wouldn't bet on that.

LeninTime
LeninTime

When you get down to it, has Al Sharpton EVER been mentioned on this blog by someone not on the right (excluding me)? 

I can't think of a single case.

IReportYouWhine#1
IReportYouWhine#1

 A traditional Christian flag flying over Cochran will come down Friday, after city officials bowed last week to threats of legal action and concerns over its impact on the city’s “fiscal resources.”

The controversy began early last month, when the Cochran City Council voted against the advice of its attorney to fly the flag at city hall to help promote a local Bible-reading marathon sponsored by the International Bible Reading Association.

While city officials have said local residents supported the decision, national groups including the D.C.-based Americans United for Separation of Church and State said they have received several complaints over the matter. The group recently sent letters to both the city and Bleckley County — which has flown the flag in the past — declaring that flying the Christian flag on public property violates the First Amendment.


uh huh


http://www.lodinews.com/ap/nation/article_d45682fc-f281-11e4-ac63-10604b9f1f4b.html