CBO: Repealing ObamaCare would make the deficit soar

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Mike Enzi, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, had a few important questions that he thought he wanted answered: If Congress repealed ObamaCare, how much money could the federal government save? What would be the impact on the deficit?

To get his answer, Enzi turned to the Congressional Budget Office, which is now under the leadership of a director hand-picked by the Republicans after they captured both chambers of Congress. Last week, the CBO delivered its findings.

Repealing ObamaCare would RAISE the deficit by some $353 billion by 2025. Even using so-called “dynamic scoring,” the thumb-on-the-scale approach long sought by Republicans, CBO analysts found that repeal of ObamaCare would raise the deficit by $137 billion over the next decade.

And beyond that ten-year window?

“Repealing the (Affordable Care Act) would cause federal budget deficits to increase by growing amounts after 2025.” The reasons are pretty simple: If you repeal ObamaCare, you also repeal its cost-containing features as well as the taxes that were passed to finance it.

And the effect of the American people?

“Repealing the ACA also would affect the number of people with health insurance and their sources of coverage. CBO and JCT estimate that the number of nonelderly people who are uninsured would increase by about 19 million in 2016; by 22 million or 23 million in 2017, 2018, and 2019; and by about 24 million in all subsequent years through 2025, compared with the number who are projected to be uninsured under the ACA.”

The CBO report does remind us that ObamaCare is not a free lunch. According to its analysis, ObamaCare will reduce the national GDP by 0.7 percent by the start of the next decade, largely because some lower-income workers won’t feel obligated to stay in the workforce in order to get insurance. However, that shouldn’t be surprising. You don’t reduce the federal deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars, which ObamaCare is doing, AND insure another 20 million Americans, which it is also doing, without a tradeoff, which in this case is slightly lower productivity.

It’s also important to note that none of the Republican proposals to allegedly “replace” ObamaCare has been submitted for CBO analysis. It’s almost as if the GOP is afraid of what an unbiased, third-party analysis would tell them, even when that analysis is conducted by experts of its own choosing. As Chairman Enzi discovered, that can lead to answers that you really, really do not want to hear.

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barkingfrog
barkingfrog

If God had wanted the government to provide for the needy he would have created welfare

or given the government the sense create welfare.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Threadbare SHEETZ!

schnirt 

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

Someone throw a confederate flag on top of the fainting couch so td and 53%er can pass out in comfort.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

When I read jay's blog, I can conclude that we ain't nevah gonna get along, and jay doesn't care whether we do or not.

Why? 'cause the less we have in common, the more jay's column benefits.

Another why? It's simple...we don't wanna get along.

schnirt

Cue the ghazi gazer!

barkingfrog
barkingfrog

Can the Sons of Confederate Veterans reenactments be supplied with real bullets ?

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

"and you are told to turn the other cheek, do unto others, and not kill. but you don't follow any of those directives very often now do you?"


Answer this for us, consumer.  Why do you quote stuff from a book you don't believe in?  Do you really want us to follow the book or do you just want to use it as an excuse to take stuff from us for your own lazy benefit and get us to not complain about it?


Explain yourself as if it's God asking you on judgement day.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@fiftythreepercenter LOL . . . you don't practice what you preach and want other to practice and then want to throw your words in my face? You, sir, a quite the piece of work. 


We are all made in God's image. You, sir, should try using the brain S/He gave you for a change.

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

@consumedconsumer @fiftythreepercenter You can dodge my question all you want to, consumer, but you will not dodge God on your last day.  You'd better start working on a better answer than that ^^^^^^^.


And if it makes you feel better to accuse me of not living by those commandments, you go with it regardless of the truth.  


Better get working on that answer, dude, could be today you need it....

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@fiftythreepercenter  RE: Why do you quote stuff from a book you don't believe in?  Do you really want us to follow the book or do you just want to use it as an excuse to take stuff from us for your own lazy benefit and get us to not complain about it?"


Do I really want you to follow the book? Um, yes, actually I do. You claim to be a follower - follow. That, or don't . . . and stop claiming to be. 


Most of the teachings found in the New Testament are great if people actually lived by them. Most American Christians don't. Many of your post prove this time and time again.


So yeah, between the self-centered, selfish policies you advocate and those found in the 'good book', i'd prefer you practiced what you preached. but you don't want to and believe you've come up with some good answers for not doing so for when you die and get waterboarded for Christ. Good luck with that. I'll be watching overhead.

barkingfrog
barkingfrog

@fiftythreepercenter 

Well now God, I read your book and had a few problems with the cheek thingy.

What's up with the three in one dogma  ? No killing ? Puhleez.. The poor and

disabled need to be taught more about bootstraps which wasn't covered. Oh,

you need not be so judgmental. Awaiting the sequel when #2 gets back from

vacation.

idigalot
idigalot

You use Gruber as a sort of close comparison to the conversation Ralph Reed had with Jack Abramoff where they talked about the millions they were taking from gullible fools. But in this comparison it's not even close. Ralph and Jack knew their dupes were suckers and could be bilked forever. With Gruber, the result is an attempt at affordable care for most and the reining in of medical fraud.

Kind of a win for the people, rather than jail time for corruption

barkingfrog
barkingfrog

How was the Confederate Government able to get so many flags in place ?

I thought they were out of business.

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

I love how our esteemed Republican bloggers like to fall back on that claim that they are paying other people's health insurance premiums.  That one is a sure sign of their little neck veins bulging even though none of them can or will ever produce a single receipt supporting their claim. In short td1234 is a liar.

Brosephus
Brosephus

@DownInAlbany 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder

In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is an action where a defendant acts with a "depraved indifference" to human life and where such act results in a death. In a depraved-heart murder, defendants commit an act even though they know their act runs an unusually high risk of causing death or serious bodily harm to someone else. If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.[1][2] In most states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder.

Had they put Gray in the back with the intent of killing him, then they would have likely been hit with a premeditated murder or murder in the first degree charge.  Baltimore PD paid out more than $5 million because of injuries people sustained while in their custody and being transported.  Given that state law caps maximum payout on lawsuits at $200k, that means at least 25 others took a ride similar to Gray and lived to tell about it.  Their past behavior as a department doesn't exactly make these officers look like choir boys

@td1234 

"BTW: You know those own rules had only been in effect for 9 days? Prior to that the community did not think it was a big deal."

Doesn't matter if those rules were made effective that day.  LEOs are and should be held to a high standard when doing their job.  Not following the rules when doing so can lead to injury or even death should not be tolerated.  Baltimore has paid out millions because of people getting injured.  Police have long known about positional axphyxiation, so I have no idea of why they would put a handcuffed and shackled person in the back of a van face down and head first.  You may consider it an oversight, but any LEO will tell you that's a big no-no.

The community obviously thought it was a big deal or Baltimore wouldn't have been sued so much and had to pay out so much to so many different people who were injured while in their custody.

breckenridge
breckenridge

Hello, 

My name is Ted Cruz and I'm running for president.  I currently have space available in my clown car for supporters of my quest for the presidency, but space is limited.  So don't dither! Jump on my clown bandwagon today!

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

"I will be glad to read any legislation Republicans put forth to eliminate all tax breaks for health insurance.  In fact, why not propose eliminating all tax breaks for everyone."


Flat tax or fair tax plans do just that.  Are you saying you're willing to support those plans now?

kitty72
kitty72

@fiftythreepercenter 


Flat tax on what exactly? You are going to say income. Do you have any idea how many ways income is defined? There is cash vs accrual method, various construction methods, etc. Not everyone is a W-2.


Don't even get me started on the unfair tax that has more problems than the Republican clown car.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

boo hoo hoo . . . i live in the greatest, richest, bestest country in the whole wide history of the world and it wants me to pay some taxes . . . boo hoo hooo . . . the guberment is soooooooooo meannnnnnnnnnn! whaaaaaaaaaaaaa whaaaaaaaaa! i want to wallow in my 53% while the 0.01% walk away with the goods. 

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

Words of state Sen. Paul Thurmond of S.C., son of Sen. Strom Thurmond, yesterday:


“I am proud to take a stand and no longer be silent,” Thurmond said from the well on Tuesday. “We must take down the Confederate flag and we must take it down now. But if we stop there, we have cheated ourselves out of an opportunity to start a different conversation about healing in our state,” he said. “I am ready.”

breckenridge
breckenridge

That's right! 

Time to get rid of Medicare!

td1234
td1234

The GOP plan should be: Buy your own dam insurance and quit sucking off the American breast. Grow up and take care of yourself and your family for a change. You should be ashamed and embarrassed if you have to beg to the government to take care of you.  

td1234
td1234

@Nick_Danger He was speaking to his followers to do on an individual basis and not on a government basis and he NEVER said to take care of those not willing to work. You can not show me where he did. 


Matter of fact: Paul said to the church that if a man does not work then he should not eat. Now why would Paul contradict the teachings of Jesus if his intent was to take care of everyone? 


Is that the only "philosopher" you were referring to? 

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@td1234 Spoken liked the privileged sob you've proven yourself to be. Never benefited a day from the assistance of anyone else. Never relied on the government for anything. Self made men all of y'all. Whatever. 

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@fiftythreepercenter LOL . . . tell that to your Creator on your judgment day and see if he agrees with your sentiment and the exuberance you proclaim it !!!!! 

td1234
td1234

@consumedconsumer Why are you not a "self made man"? Why did you not go to school and make the necessary sacrifices to not be able to take care of yourself? 


Tell us why we should feel sorry of you and take care of you now? 

td1234
td1234

@Philo_Farnsworth Take care of the widows and orphans for this is what God commanded us to do. 


If a man is to lazy to work then let him not eat. 

td1234
td1234

@LeninTime No that is a part of a compensation package that the employer chooses to offer for the services you render to the employer. Huge difference. What are the people begging for the government to take care of them giving back to the the people? What services are they rendering for the benefits? 

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

@consumedconsumer @td1234 Pretty much true for me, dude.  I've been working since I was 16 and haven't been given anything I didn't work for.  Thanks for noticing.


Just curious though, where do you get the "privileged" part? Yes, I had the privilege of going to HS, went to college, worked at McD's through school, got a job, saved, started a company.  If that's your idea of "privileged", I guess you've got me there.

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@td1234 Some of us have a different view of how our country should be, td. 

Some great philosophers have suggested it's a good idea to help the poor and downtrodden.  Most of us (and we vote) don't want to live in a country that ignores its most vulnerable citizens.

I, for one, am happy to see "my" tax money go to help the less fortunate, and I cannot think of a better use for it. 

And I'll be happy to express that to my Creator at the appropriate time.

td1234
td1234

@consumedconsumer I will and will be proud of the works I have done in his name in my time on this earth. 


What works will you be proud of? 


Consumer to God: I am proud that I supported the government to confiscate money from others to give to the people that were to lazy to work. 

Jimmyliscious
Jimmyliscious

@consumedconsumer @fiftythreepercenter tell that to your Creator

Last time I checked, the creator wanted us to take care of our own families and offer some form of assistance through the church. I don't recall reading where we had to take care of someone else's family.

td1234
td1234

@Jimmyliscious Very true. 


We are told that if a man did not work neither shall he eat. 

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Philo_Farnsworth

Your comment prompts me to bring up jay's own words:

The CBO report does remind us that ObamaCare is not a free lunch. According to its analysis, ObamaCare will reduce the national GDP by 0.7 percent by the start of the next decade, largely because some lower-income workers won’t feel obligated to stay in the workforce in order to get insurance.

Helloooooooooooo.....

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@Jimmyliscious church ain't got the monopoly. the directives are to the individual. or are you recognizing the socialist communist connections in Christianity now?

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@td1234 Or you could get affordable health insurance and get bigger breast implants so you can feed more.  At least until you grow a pair of your own.

barkingfrog
barkingfrog

@td1234 

Buy a gun, disband the police.

Build your own roads.

Grow your own food.

 

td1234
td1234

@consumedconsumer Oh they do it because they need competent people to work for them and so that they can maximize profits. 


If the tax breaks took care of the cost then all companies would offer insurance. Providing insurance is NOT a zero cost to employers. 

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@fiftythreepercenter @consumedconsumer @td1234 You're privileged to have been born in the US. You're likely white and the privilege runs through that. You were privileged to have parents who made do things you didn't want to do. You were privileged to have a public school system to go to. A civil society to live in. Not have to perform child labor at 5 to help feed your family. Financial aid to go to school. Tax incentives to hire you and provide you with benefits. You're soooooo f-in' privileged you don't even recognize it.

notagain
notagain

@td1234 Beg are you kidding?With the EBT cards it's mostly hidden,no beg, no embarrassment and certainly no pride,just figuring how to get more.

td1234
td1234

@barkingfrog Those same people that are paying for all those services are also paying to take care of the people that do not want to take care of themselves and their own family. 


It is all about the size and scope of the government. People should take care of themselves and their own family first and then most people believe we should have a small safety net to help people that falls on hard times as long as it is temporary.  

Jimmyliscious
Jimmyliscious

@Nick_Danger @Jimmyliscious @consumedconsumer @fiftythreepercenter  I've heard of the good Samaritan. I believe that was a one time act. Have you hear "give a man a fish and he can eat. Teach a man to fish and he can eat for life." Any government assistance should be for a person to improve their situation to where they can be self sufficient, not a life time moocher. Except for those that can't help themselves, they should be well taken care of.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@td1234 The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me"


gfy

td1234
td1234

@notagain When a country spends more money each year on means tested giveaways than it does on its own national defense then we have a priorities all wrong. 

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@td1234 our own national defense budget is quite small. our let's protect the interests of international corporations many of whom are currently headquartered in the US, but keep their money overseas, is quite large.


and if you're including SS and Medicare/Medicaid in that more money each year nonsense, we get taxed special for those 'freebies' as you like to call them.

td1234
td1234

@Nick_Danger 


Which of those philosophers say that we should take care of people that do not want to take care of themselves? Take care of every need of a person that refuses to work, that would rather take drugs of drink all day long? 


I am interested in reading these philosophers own words.  

Paul42
Paul42

@td1234

Grow up and take care of your own kids' education for a change.  You should be ashamed and embarrassed if you have to beg your neighbors to pay property taxes to take care of you.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@fiftythreepercenter  a reader reading my posts and your posts would think I was the Christian and you want to lecture me about 'start living by the book"? the superiority complex in you runs deep.

td1234
td1234

@consumedconsumer SS and Medicare is NOT a means tested program. It is a insurance program that everyone pays into for years before they collect the benefits. You do understand what is a means tested program? Medicaid is a means tested program and no you do not pay into it in your payroll taxes. 


SS and Medicare is NOT included in the estimates that it cost more of means tested programs than we spend on our defense. 

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@td1234 

What if a man is working 80h/week at 2 minimum wage jobs to support a wife and 2 kids?

Should he get subsidized health care?  Is he sufficiently "deserving" for you?

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@td1234 @Jimmyliscious and you are told to turn the other cheek, do unto others, and not kill. but you don't follow any of those directives very often now do you?

td1234
td1234

@consumedconsumer Key phase: "whatever YOU did". Not whatever you voted for to make the government do. 

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@td1234 @Nick_Danger 

"Which of those philosophers say that we should take care of people that do not want to take care of themselves?"

Jesus, for one, said to take care of the less fortunate, and never once refused aid to anyone. 

LeninTime
LeninTime

@td1234 

The GOP plan should be: Buy your own dam insurance and quit sucking off the American breast. Grow up and take care of yourself and your family for a change

***
Wait, that makes no sense. Employees in America have been 'sucking off the government' teet (and employer) teet for generations under the traditional US employer-sponsored health care model, which has always been heavily subsidized by the government.

Didn't you know that? 

td1234
td1234

@consumedconsumer Not in my reading. When you want the government to take care of the poor then that is not Christian, when you support abortion then that is not Christian, when you support gay marriage then that is not Christian. 

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

Who said government has no role in a functioning society?

Why do you make shi t up?

td1234
td1234

@consumedconsumer And why not? Is not investing working? Where did the money come from to invest? 


I have done both. I have been a laborer, a manager, a business owner and an investor and let me tell you being a laborer is the easiest job one can have. 

td1234
td1234

@PaulinNH How many examples of that can you show us? If a man is working 80 hours per wk at Min wage for more than 6 months then he is doing something wrong. My 18 year old son on his first job and only a HS diploma just got a raise after 6 months and is now making $8.25 per hr. 


Why is a grown man with a wife and two children only making min wage? 

idigalot
idigalot

Did Jesus really say that? Citation please.