Supreme Court has one last surprise, this one on abortion

Abortion Anniversary

The U.S. Supreme Court had one more little surprise for us, it seems, issuing an emergency decree this afternoon that temporarily blocks enforcement of an anti-abortion law passed by Texas.

Earlier this month, a three-judge panel for the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals had unanimously upheld those provisions, which would force most abortion clinics in Texas to close. (Of the 41 clinics in operation when the law passed in 2013, fewer than a dozen would remain.) The law sets licensing and medical standards for abortion clinics that are so stringent that most clinics outside of major urban areas could not hope to meet them.

The emergency decree issued today — and apparently opposed by Chief Justice John Roberts and justices Antonin Scalia, Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas — will stand until the court decides whether to accept the Texas case for its next term. If it does not accept the case, the temporary decree will end and the backdoor effort to ban abortion can be fully implemented.

Among other things, the law requires that doctors who perform abortion have admitting privileges at a local hospital — often not possible in conservative areas — and that clinics meet the standards of a full surgical clinic. Those provisions — which doctors and medical experts say are unnecessary — were justified as a means to improve patient safety, but everybody on both sides of the debate understood that as a fraud.

For example, it’s unlikely that the celebrations by conservative politicians upon passage of the Texas law were inspired by joy that patient health had been improved. (And let’s just say that Texas isn’t big on government regulation in general). The bill was introduced by its sponsors as pro-life legislation, and upon passage of the bill Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst immediately tweeted out a map showing the vast sections of Texas in which abortion would no longer be available, bragging that “We fought to pass SB5 thru the Senate last night, & this is why!”

The Supreme Court is already considering whether to hear a similar case out of Mississippi that would force closure of that state’s only clinic. If Mississippi and Texas win those cases, you can bet that we’ll see very similar legislation here in Georgia next year.

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Peachs
Peachs

The south feels stepped on by the rest of the country.  So what do they do.  They go right back to the thinking that got them stepped on in the first place like more of that is going to fix their problem or in their mind being last is not a problem it was the plan all along.


In the meanwhile the carpetbagger baits the south to make more easy money, to them we are just a market a little slow thinking market but a market just like South Africa or China, they don't care how we think and the less we think the more there is for the carpetbagger who is not handicapped with a temper that dulls his brain.

honested
honested

In wrong-wing-nut world, how many decisions would we hand off to 1 month development zygotes?

Rumor has it that given a 'choice' all 1 month development zygotes would vote Democrat and put this issue to rest for good

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

So, no facts to support the assertion.

Heading back upstairs.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

I do wonder how 53 just KNOWS righties have fewer 'borshunz than "the left", as he claims?

Looking forward to the data.

Peachs
Peachs

@JamVet @fiftythreepercenter @Visual_Cortex  there is a 90% plus in the Catholic Church that have used birth control in their life yet the church moves like they are in lock step.  Churches would be wise to stop making the flock a political weapon because it makes people decide against the politics never hearing the real message or is there one to hear.

JamVet
JamVet

@fiftythreepercenter @Visual_Cortex 

So what is the rate that GOP women murder their babaies, 47%er?

It must be staggeringly bad if you won't even try to report the slaughter that they particiapte in.

And what of their GOP husbands?

Aren't they complicit in these murders?

Execute all of them!

It's the conservative way!

SimpleTruths
SimpleTruths

Obamacare and blaming Republicans sheets.

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

"It is an individual call between a woman, her partner, her doctor and her God."


I guess in your warped world the child involved doesn't get a voice in the matter.


Question for you and all your lib friends....  If at 4.5 months gestation someone had asked YOU if you wanted to be born, what would your answer have been?  Be honest, what would YOU have said?

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@fiftythreepercenter "child" 


So, at 1 month, you agree with most, that the fetus is unviable. 

At 2 months, you also agree. Same with 3 months and 4 months.  It's not until four and a half months that you think a fetus might be viable. 


Why is that? 

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@fiftythreepercenter


Tests for many lifelong disorders, such as for Down's Syndrome, are not known (in terms of results back to women) until the pregnancy has advanced to 4 1/2 months in utero.  Any fetus taken from the womb at that time, if it happened to survive would have severe disabilities,  Practically all would not survive at 4/12 months.  Remember the time of pregnancy in terms of coming to full term is 40 weeks, or 10 months, not 9 months.  Many people cannot handle raising a Downs Syndrome child.  Many others are blessed with the stamina, mental and physical and financial, to do so.  This sensitive issue must be an individual call, not a legislative call.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@kitty72

She didn't allow fear to overwhelm her. Too many women do.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@fiftythreepercenter 


I do not think that the fetus is viable at 4 1/2 months.  I birthed a child when I was 22 years old who was born 3 months and one week premature and who weighed 2 lbs. and 4 ounces.  He lived only 24 hours in 1965 and expired.  I would never have aborted him.  My first husband, for whom our baby son was named, and I wanted him very badly but I had female problems in difficulty in carrying him when I was in my early 20s.  I know very well from personal experience that this is an individual call.  


Later, I don't think I could have handled having a Down's Syndrome child when I was 39 and birthed my second child at 9 months and over 10 lbs.  I had had a test when I was 4 months pregnant when I was 38 years old to see if I would have a Downs Syndrome child at age 39.  God blessed me that my second child was healthy and normal and full term.  Even at 39, I cried after that long needle was stuck into my pregnant belly at 4 months pregnant because I was so afraid it might have hurt my baby.  The doctor said he would not be giving that test again because he could tell what a choice and ordeal that was for me to undergo.  But, I was wise enough to know what I could have handled and what I could not have handled.  Again, it is an individual call by the pregnant woman and her partner and her doctor and her God.  

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@MaryElizabethSings

I don't think I could have handled a Down Syndrome child when I birthed my second child at 9 months when I was 39

You underestimate yourself, Mary Elizabeth.

Adoption is always an option.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@FIGMO2 @MaryElizabethSings


You cannot speak for me, Figmo. Only I knew what I could handle at 39. And, with my sensibilities, I would always know that that child was mine even if adopted.  A Downs Syndrome child would need forever care whether it was adopted or not.  One never knows what would happen in an adopted family to a lifelong responsibility like that.  God blessed me greatly and gave me and my second husband the greatest blessing in our lives with my second child who was a healthy baby in every way. And, we were wise enough to stop at one, counting our blessings with every day.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@FIGMO2 @kitty72


We must never think of others in generalities.  Every woman and every person is different.  We must respect women enough to allow them to make the best decision for all in their families, in their unique circumstances.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@MaryElizabethSings

I would always know that that child was mine even if adopted.

You could have also taken comfort in knowing that YOU made the ultimate sacrifice to secure the child's life.

A Downs Syndrome child would need forever care whether it was adopted or not.

You are misguided when it comes to children with DS. Note, I place the child BEFORE the disability. A Downs Syndrome child? <<< That one always gets my goad.

You're misguided when it comes to children, not to mention, adults with DS. Enough of them live independent and productive lives to warrant emotional support.

You surprise me on this one, Mary Elizabeth.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@FIGMO2 


That's why I say that we must never think of others in stereotypical ways.  People should always surprise us when they reveal more of themselves.  We must see others not with judgment but with care, even adults.


As you know, Figmo, there are different degrees of disabilities with children with Down's Syndrome.  Some are nearly self-sufficient and even marry in group housing situations, but some others are much more dependent because of the nature of their unique disabilities, just as the average citizens's IQs will vary from 90 - 125, even though all are "average."  A rule of thumb is that most people will need an IQ near 120 to graduate from college.  Not all "average" people are the same, and neither are all Down Syndrome people.  You present a story book ending in your case studies on Down Syndrom child but every child and every family is different.  As an educator, I tried to see others with my eyes wide open and challenge my students to do the same, in making wise life choices for themselves.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@FIGMO2 


I think we have had a good dialogue for the public to read, Figmo.  I'm glad that you expressed yourself honestly as I did myself.  I do think that there was an element of judgment about my choice to find out if my second child would have been Downs Syndrome,  in your words, but then I think most people would have that judgment in their hearts.  It is that judgment in their hearts about others which I am trying to soften by tell ing my truths, experienced. 

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@MaryElizabethSings

A dear friend of mine, after two subsequent ultrasounds, was told her baby was displaying soft markers. One discovered upon the first ultrasound, the second marker seen on the one following. While I was with her, she was told by both her OB/GYN AND the technician, that time allowed for her to terminate/abort/some sterile clinical term. Anyhoo, she asked my advice. "They're being overly cautious, and even if, the baby experiences a minor abnormality, you're strong enough to endure."

Having worked with children with Downs Syndrome, I can tell you they have much to offer. Their sheer determination, appropriately channeled, is a wonder to behold. It can be inspirational to those of us who take things for granted.

Long story, short? Her baby was born without ANY abnormalities. One of the smartest little kids I've had the privilege to know.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@MaryElizabethSings

And their reasons for an abortion?

negative impact on the mother's life

financial instability

relationship problems /unwillingness to be a single mother

Now most of ^^^ those are put forth by unmarried women.

I would suggest they think about that before engaging in unprotected sex.

And among the secondary reasons?

I don't want more children or I'm done with childrearing

I'm not ready to become a mother or not ready for another child

I don't want others to know about my pregnancy or that I'm having sex

My husband/partner wants me to have an abortion

There are problems with the health of fetus

There are problems with my own health

My parents want me to have an abortion

With the exception of two, all could be resolved through adoption. Even one of those two could be resolved through adoption.





Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

Heh. Got a Hobby Lobby banner ad atop this page.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

Don't let the rights women have fought for for decades, and centuries now, slip backwards, folks. Think about your daughters and their daughters.  This issue needs to be recognized for its importance.  Half of the human race are females.  My father quoted an old quote from someone else when I was growing up:  "When you educate a man, you educate an individual for success but when you educate a woman, you educate a whole community/generation."  Women are the equals of men and not subservient to men.  Men should not be making laws which restrict a woman from making a life-alternating decision about the quality of her life in regard to the number of children she will raise.  The right to have an abortion (at least before the embryo becomes viable at about 4/12 months in utero) should not be curtailed by law in Texas or in any other state.  To have an abortion is tragic, but sometimes, in an individual woman's life, not to have an abortion is even more tragic. It is an individual call between a woman, her partner, her doctor and her God.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

Disagree with the "tragic" business. Sometimes it is, sometimes not.

But otherwise spot on.

Peachs
Peachs

@MaryElizabethSings  if we just could figure out how to make a few of the white couples have black babies you would see abortion full blown.

TBS
TBS

td

Cool way to say no you didn't predict it

Thanks

TBS
TBS

td

You predicted that that scotus was going to rule in favor of gay marriage?

I must have missed it

td1234
td1234

@TBS Well you need to actually go back and see what I said was likely to happen. I did hold out hope that Kennedy would compromise and say that states had always decided marriage law and could continue but all states would have to recognize the contracts in other states. 

HeadleyLamar
HeadleyLamar

@td1234 @TBS He has predicted there would be a mass movement ot take down the American flag as well


If td makes a prediction take note. The exact opposite is going to happen. 

JamVet
JamVet

@HeadleyLamar @td1234 @TBS 

From the slavery-defender who bet me that Romney would win the last presidential election.

Let's face it, guys some people are just plain oblivious to the realities of a modern world. Intentionally...

td1234
td1234

@JamVet It is you that morally support slavery since you are using the exact same arguments to justify abortion. 

td1234
td1234

@HeadleyLamar Where did I say "mass" movement? I said it would be the next step for progressive and guess what? I was proven right. 


BTW: Were you not one of the people predicting that not expanding medicaid would be the death nail for Deal a year ago? 

ZAZ
ZAZ

Thought I'd jump in here before most of the crazies wake from their drunken stupors and begin relishing in aborted babies, flags, and gay marriage. OK, I'm gone. A couple more hours and they'll be capable of contributing their idiocy.

TBS
TBS

Lola weighs in with some irony

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

"If they are fully educated, sure.  But many conservatives wish their children and other children do not get fully educated in sex education. "


Oh, the irony... libs CONSTANTLY whine about the lack of sex education, yet who is it flooding the abortion clinics to kill their unwanted children? You guessed it....libs!!!  The icing on the cake is the DA attitude it's my fault for not stopping by lib houses to educate your kids about how to keep from getting pregnant.  That's some of the dumbest logic ever presented right there.  Just wow!!!

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

You really think right wingers don't have abortions? Like, as routinely as any given politically affiliated type?

honested
honested

@fiftythreepercenter 

Yes and it is the cons clogging the drug stores attempting to prevent prescriptions for contraceptives being filled because of their so-called 'moral objection'.

It's the cons who forced 'abstinence education' on America under the shrub administration and had the first major jump in teen pregnancy rates in years (at the schools hobbled by 'abstinence ed').

It's the cons who refuse to accept reality because their imaginary friend told them not to.

And it's the cons who refuse to accept their responsibility or clean up THEIR mess.

td1234
td1234

@Visual_Cortex All Conservative are not social conservatives. But yes I do believe social conservatives (evangelicals) have less abortions than other segments of the population. 

JamVet
JamVet

@fiftythreepercenter 

But many conservatives wish their children and other children do not get fully educated in sex education.

Drop those last three words and the assertion is till valid.

(Damn liberal, godless, public brainwashing schools in this country!)

RaindroidWillBoy
RaindroidWillBoy

@fiftythreepercenter


How many christians have abortions every year yet preach against it in church every Sunday?  


The dumbest logic here belongs to you and your assumption that what others do is any of your business..

JamVet
JamVet

@Visual_Cortex 

I suggest that, to quote a certain crazed person here,  we "put capital punishment on the table" for the Republican women who have abortions.

We have to start somewhere and these murderers, above all other women, should be exterminated first, for violating their oaths to the Holy GOP...