The Trump ascendancy: Its details and consequences

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Remember when Donald Trump’s comments about John McCain were supposed to have doomed his candidacy, exposing him as the clown that responsible people always knew him to be?

That was July 18. Since then …

Trumppoll

Every poll of Republican voters taken since July 30 gives Trump a double-digit lead over his competitors. In the latest Fox News poll, Trump is the first choice of 26 percent of Republican voters. He is the first or second choice of 38 percent of Republicans, also tops in the field. Back in early June, 59 percent of Republicans told Fox pollsters that they would never vote for Trump. Today, that number is down to 33 percent. Think about that: In less than two months, a quarter of the GOP electorate has shifted from “never” to “maybe” on Trump. That’s remarkable. **

Breaking it down further, Trump leads among Republican men, among Republican women, among Republican white men and white women. He leads among Republicans with a college degree, and those without a degree. He leads among Republicans under 45 — pulling 35 percent of the vote — and those over 45.  He leads among those making less than $55,000, and more than $55,000. He leads among conservatives, and also among white evangelicals.

In short, Trump leads. And why does he lead?

There are a lot of theories, but personally, I think it’s because he shows such total disdain for complexity. In the Trumpian worldview, the solution to every problem has just two components: First, you choose the outcome that you prefer — usually of the “I win, you lose” variety” — then you apply the will needed to create that outcome. That’s it, period, next problem please. And while every politician is guilty of that to a degree, none approaches the shamelessness of Trump.

That’s how he will make America great again. That’s how he will solve the Middle East. That’s how he will halt illegal immigration AND get a majority of the Hispanic vote in the process. Watch him in interviews, and he steadfastly refuses to be drawn into discussion of details and consequences, because details and consequences are where things get complicated. Talk of details and consequences is for losers. He talks results, not process. (See Gordian knot, Alexander).

For many voters, that worldview is highly appealing. They’ve been promised for years that the usurper Obama would be defeated, that ObamaCare would be repealed, that social changes such as gay marriage would be stopped dead in their tracks. Yet none of it has happened, and when they demand explanations from party leaders, what do they get? Vague talk about the details of congressional procedures or warnings about potential political consequences. Not surprisingly, they’ve come to see details and consequences as nothing more than excuses.

But here’s the irony of it all: Republicans supporting Trump as a protest against the do-nothing GOP establishment are playing into the establishment’s hands and making it more likely that the establishment’s favored candidate, Jeb Bush, will be the party’s nominee. That’s because as long as Trump is in the race and dominating polls and headlines, candidates who might be capable of a more sustained challenge to Bush — Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, John Kasich or even Ted Cruz — are being starved of the attention and traction they need.

I realize that those supporting Trump may not want to hear that they’re hurting their own cause because, you know, details and consequences and all that. But it’s nonetheless true.

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** The Fox poll also puts Barack Obama’s job approval rating at 46 percent, equal to his disapproval rate. Among American voters under 35, it’s 59 percent approval, 30 percent disapproval. And when asked to cite the most important issue facing the country, just 2 percent of registered voters said it was abortion, the issue over which the GOP is now threatening to shut down the government.

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AlwaysReady
AlwaysReady

The same was said about that B Movie actor Ronald Reagan concerning details and the consequence was a landslide victory.

KUTGF
KUTGF

Studies have also shown that carrying a gun tends to make people more likely to deliver electric shocks , increase paranoia about people and objects, and increase testosterone . (The “ vast majority ” of perpetrators of gun violence are men, according to the APA.)

The toolkit of police in America often includes a handgun, Taser and nightstick, and many departments also have the assault weapons, riot gear and armored vehicles that transformed Ferguson, Missouri, into an illustration of militarized police action. The surfeit of weapons probably makes both officers and people around them more aggressive, the experts said, regardless of the type of weapon. 

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/mere-sight-of-a-gun-makes-police-and-the-public-more-aggressive/

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Some interesting results. 

KUTGF
KUTGF

So now in the daily Clinton poutrage, donating money to a legitimate charity that just also happens to have your name is a bad thing....cause you know..... CLINTON.  How clueless are our RWers.  Most wealthy people have their own charities and that is where they donate.  Then others apply to the charity for grants, etc and the charities perform their work.


But let's not talk about them PACS cause you know their aint no coordination with the campaign. 


Oh the silliness. 

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

@KUTGF   Trust me the right wing is going to be alright, pretty soon their beitching will only be moans about this.  They are supporting the biggest hoodlum of charitable tax cheats that have ever existed in the country, Donald Trump.  Google is your best friend.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Reporting miscarriages?

Perhaps it had something to do with this?

Domestic violence has been identified as a prime cause of miscarriage or still-birth(1), and of maternal deaths during childbirth(2) .

http://www.womensaid.org.uk/page.asp?section=000100010010000400020003

A lot of abortion advocates here. No adoption advocates.

As a society, we place more emphasis on adopting animals than we do humans.

Sad but true given the fact an estimated 36 couples wait to adopt every baby offered in love.

Some here push the "The baby is better hers and dead than anyone else's."

Disgusting! 

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@FIGMO2 A 2005 publication about miscarriages in the UK.  


"The truth is that in the vast majority of cases, there is nothing that the woman did that caused the miscarriage,” Williams said. Most miscarriages, he explained to Science of Us via email, are caused by a genetic problem in the fetus, usually an extra or missing chromosome. “This problem happens when the egg or sperm or early embryo was being formed, and the miscarriage is really the [result] of the woman's body acting in a healthy manner and recognizing that this is not destined to be a healthy pregnancy and stopping it early so she can conceive again and, hopefully, have a healthy pregnancy,” he said."

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Doggone_GA

And among those choices is adoption, Doggone. I never see any advocacy for that option.

Better the baby were the woman's and dead, than anyone else's.

Again, I say...disgusting!

Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

@FIGMO2 "A lot of abortion advocates here"

There are no abortion advocates here.  CHOICE advocates, yes.

When you start your rant with a lie...you have no point.

straker
straker

Down - "average taxpayer could ever get away with this crap in a million years"


Are you saying the American Justice System looks the other way when it comes to Bill and Hillary?


If so, where is your HARD evidence to back this up?

Peachs
Peachs

I have felt for a while Trump was a stalking horse. for Bush.  He magnets all the nut votes to himself, and leaves the real driving to Bush. Republicans are good at macro management like this move, where they fail is micro, getting a national grassroots machine to ,at the exact time, put voters in the polls. They have some thinly populated areas fired up who seem to fire cannon balls every morning while brushing their teeth with nothing more than a habitual thought process of that is what we have always done but there is no real emotion in the Republican hierarchy, there is no holy cause except greed which is not a good campaign slogan.  

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

Hey Jay, I'll bet Trump could get the AJC's money back for this POS blog software you got hosed on.


Just sayin'......

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

How many of you think that the average taxpayer could ever, in a million years, get away with this crap?

Half of Bill and Hillary Clinton’s charitable giving last year went to the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, according to a review of the latest financial disclosures from their private foundation.

The Clintons earned more than $28 million in 2014 and claimed around $3 million in income as charitable tax deductions, according to tax returns released by Hillary Clinton’s campaign last Friday. The campaign emphasized Clinton’s charitable giving in a press statement, saying that it “represented 10.8 percent” of her income in 2014. But roughly half of that money—$1.8 million—appears to have been channeled to the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

According to the tax returns, the Clintons gave $3 million in 2014 to the Clinton Family Foundation, a small private foundation that the family uses as a pass-through to other charities. Records show the CFF disbursed $3.7 million in 2014, including $1.8 million to the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@_GodlessHeathen_ @Visual_Cortex @DownInAlbany

I'm all for that. I've every confidence it will be followed by what one might call a vast right-wing, um, gathering, to check on Hils' money.

The Republican nominee's? Maybe not quite so much. There'll be a bit less time to really get crackin' beyond the usual dossiers they assemble for the top contenders at this time, but some gander sauce will surely emerge.

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

@Visual_Cortex @DownInAlbany I have heard that charity begins at home, but, this should be criminal...if it's not already.

The Clintons are above the law as we all know, but, some fail to admit.

td1234
td1234

@DownInAlbany Money laundering at its best. Take earnings and then give 3 million to charity (your own foundation) for a tax deduction and then pay yourself again.  

td1234
td1234

@DownInAlbany So the Clinton's actually only gave about 4% to charity in 2014. The progressive way take others money to pay for the poor not my money. 

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@DownInAlbany @Numbers_R_Us Well, Mitt is not the average taxpayer, if that is what you mean.  And he is not running this time even though when he was running, Republicans did not care about his tax breaks.  Relevance.  Geez.  What would you care about such a thing.

Peachs
Peachs

@td1234 @DownInAlbany I am all for this line of questioning, we can trade the Clintons for the 1% you are blowing up as collateral damage going after this couple.  Every rich guy in this country has a superficial foundation and wealth manager. Absolutely money laundering, and we have all that jail space from the drug dealers getting out early we can put them into. You talk about the economic move of our lifetime , take the 1% put em in jail and let some ambitious new blood come off the bench and run this economy like capitalism was suppose to do in the first place, hell ya lock em up. Brilliant and they said the right can't create..

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@DownInAlbany

Good luck with that "attack the charitable organization" business. I'm sure it'll be a Big Winner in 2016.

Peachs
Peachs

@DownInAlbany more common than you think, just not reported.  T. Boone Pickens does it through donations to Oklahoma State, he then sits on the endowment investment board and directs the money back in his projects allowing both a tax write off and a profit from capital infusion from Ok State. Plus he has a great football team something every American needs to encourage college football. 

OldEngineer
OldEngineer

@DownInAlbany @Numbers_R_Us  Pretty sure that this piece is about Trump, and YOU dragged (let's call it deflection) the Clintons into it, then grumbled when somebody else brought Romney along.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

Awhile back the topic of miscarriages came up, and some were wondering aloud (jokingly, I presumed) what kind of legislative control might be exercised over such things.

I didn't have the time to google it then, but have since and yep. There has been nuttiness on this score, courtesy of this gentleman:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Obenshain

who actually introduced this legislation:

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/20/gop_attorney_general_candidate_tried_to_force_women_to_report_miscarriages_to_police/

[SB962] requires that when a fetal death occurs without medical attendance upon the mother [sic] at or after the delivery or abortion, the mother [sic] or someone acting on her behalf, within 24 hours, report the fetal death, location of the remains, and identity of the mother to the local or state police or sheriff’s department of the city or county where the fetal death occurred. The bill also specifies that no one shall remove, destroy, or otherwise dispose of any remains without the express authorization of law-enforcement officials or the medical examiner, and that a violation of this section is a Class 1 misdemeanor.

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@Visual_Cortex After the first one million women called in and said "I had my period," they changed their mind.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@Numbers_R_Us @Visual_Cortex

Full disclosure time: If you read the link, Obenshain's press flack pointed out to Salon that they supposedly met with folks who'd objected to the bill (including apparently the evillest outfit in the history of evil, Planned Parenthood!) and withdrew the legislation because the "language was too broad".

So, they were unable to "solve" this "problem", for now.


DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

Bernie Sanders wants a $15 minimum wage.

He pays his folks $12.

Typical democrat.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@DownInAlbany

You've done your homework and found what kind of legal issues the Bern might have if he were to pay these interns 3 dollars per hour more than he is legally allowed to pay with taxpayer dollars, right?

You wouldn't just be regurgitating stuff you were fed without confirming the veracity of such information, would you?

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@DownInAlbany @Visual_Cortex

DiA, if there's a petition you'd like me to sign that ensures people are paid living wages in any and all walks of life I'll happily sign it.

But it seems pretty bleedin' obvious that Bernie can't just funnel public money at will to staff people reporting to him, and I can only imagine what kind of field day the right wing would have it if he were to do such a thing.

(I'll add, I did google it, and found mostly screechy right wing complaints, no actual source documents, and couldn't really be bothered going much further.)

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

State releases new batch of Hillary Clinton emails

Yet, she is still falling short of what the court ordered her to do.

She has now released 12% of her emails.

12%

Let that sink in for a minute.