No firearms allowed at GOP debate. But fireworks ….?

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At Cleveland’s Quicken Loans Arena, the site of tonight’s GOP presidential debate, “firearms and other weapons of any kind are strictly forbidden.” In other words, the Republicans have agreed to hold their debate in the most dangerous place in America, according to conservative rhetoric — a gun-free zone.

I do hope all 10 candidates nonetheless summon enough courage to attend.

The issue is particularly dicey for Donald Trump. He portrays himself as a life member of the NRA, a concealed carry permit holder, a stalwart defender of the Second Amendment and a harsh critic of gun-free zones. “We have to get rid of that whole gun-free-zone nonsense and just stop it,” he said in Charleston, S.C., after the church shooting there. “We gotta stick up for the Second Amendment.”

However, as the good folks at ThinkProgress point out, a lot of Trump’s hotels, golf courses and other properties are — you guessed it — gun-free zones. Even permit holders are not allowed to carry at facilities such as Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, Trump National Golf Club in Los Angeles and the Trump International Hotel Waikiki Beach Walk in Hawaii, among others.

In a different environment, that might be something that Trump’s competitors for the GOP nomination might want to ask him about, but I doubt very much that will happen. He’ll be the coiled cobra in a room of elephants at Quicken Loans Arena tonight, the person whom others avoid as much as possible for fear of becoming a target of his wrath.  And Trump himself has promised to be on good behavior.

“I’m not looking to hurt anybody,” he told Bill O’Reilly. “I’m not looking to embarrass anybody. If I have to bring up deficiencies I will bring up deficiencies. But certainly I’m not looking to do that.”

Maybe. But two hours is a long time for a man to go against his nature.

Consider this an open forum on tonight’s debate.

 

 

 

 

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straker
straker

Bill - "accept their choices"


No, see, being gay is NOT a choice anymore than being straight is.


If you haven't learned this by now, it casts serious questions about all your other judgments.

Bill OrvisWhite
Bill OrvisWhite

The clear winner IS the honorable Doctor Benjamin Carson. This Real Man is an inspiration WHO HAS the ability to lift this once-free nation out of its malaise days. Still, me and millions who possess common sense, love all 17 of these rightful candidates. 


WITH THOSE FACTS LAID OUT HERE ON THIS LEFTY BLOG, the FACT is that Governor Kasich NEEDED to leave the stage last night with THE FACT that he expanded Big Government in his state and he accepts debauchery in the form of homosexuality. Again, me and millions love the folk in the homosexual community, but do not accept their choices. This DOES NOT make me hateful, sorry. 


Obviously my positions do not make me politically correct and that is why I'm on the same page with Mister Trump. What's wrong with speaking your mind and telling it all like it is? What happened to this nation whereupon we are told to watch our every word? If a lady is not acting like a lady, I'll tell her! That Rosie O'Donnell is disgusting. Mister Trump had every right to call "her" out on that fact years ago! Mister Trump zinged the gorgeous Miss Megan. Why does a man have to walk on eggshells?


If Mister Trump becomes the nominee, there is no doubt that I would quickly vote for Him. I also think that the honorable Senator Cruz, the honorable Senator Rubio, the honorable Governor Huckabee are excellent candidates who I can easily support. I can also easily see Miss Carly become a VP nominee to any of these great men. 


At the end of the day, there are so many people to choose from who can repair the massive amount of damage that has been inflicted upon America. It WILL BE morning again in America come January 2017 when we see a Real Man in The Oval Office. 


Amen,

Bill 

Bill OrvisWhite
Bill OrvisWhite

@SFM_Scootter Writing from a parking lot on Piedmont Road-walking over to that hotel where the Red State gathering is happening - hope to get to Doctor Carson. Wish me luck. Amen, Bill 

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

Have the rightwingnuts picked their favorite yet.  Is it still Trump.  Georgia rightwingnuts seemed to like him before that first debate.  Are they still in love with him the morning after their date night

JKLtwo
JKLtwo

@Numbers_R_Us Not my choice, but he didn't do anything to lose points lat night.  Still sticking with hillary based on her having a vagina and being married to Bill as her best qualifications?

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

Even an uber-lib ain't gonna buy what Bammie's selling:

"Sen. Chuck Schumer, an influential Jewish Democrat who's poised to assume leadership of his party in the Senate, will oppose President Barack Obama's nuclear deal with Iran, he announced on Thursday evening. (CNN)"

I'm guessing Chuckie is no longer on Jammie's "decent Jew" list...

JamVet
JamVet

@Philo_Farnsworth 

Yo, neo-Nazi dork, Jewish Democrat is redundant!
LOL at your Jew-free, fake-Christian (like you!) party!

Peachs
Peachs

I love the negative message Republicans vibrate in debates.This is the message the resonates with Trump followers.  He could spit out the negatives fast enough on that sour puss of his.  Some comedian should have a field day with this stuff, like a clown fire department. 

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

"With all the garbage he's gotten from Republicans who hate the fact that one of Those People"


I guess if you don't have the intellectual capacity to discuss actual issues, that's ^^^^^^^^^ what you're left with.

glock19
glock19

There wasn't any babies killed either. And then chopped up and sold parts.

straker
straker

Dr. Ben and Michelle Bachmann for 2016!!!!!

skydog12
skydog12

Dr Ben came across like he couldn`t make up a batch of grits. I want to see his long form school transcripts.

Peachs
Peachs

@skydog12 he puts a lot of "you know" into his sentences not very polished, this four year event makes you realize any citizen if he applies himself could be a Harvard grad or a neurosurgery, for only one can be president and that one has to be legitimate. .  

glock19
glock19

Perhaps you can correspond to the hundreds of children's lives that he's saved...

Peachs
Peachs

@JKLtwo @Peachs @skydog12 as one of the most colorful and interesting speakers of our time.  That speech he made in Charleston, the good doctor would have put the place to sleep.  We need leadership not tokenship and some misdirection by the Republican Party that runs one every campaign to show us how open minded they are.

Peachs
Peachs

@glock19 and he should stay a doctor he is no politician.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@skydog12

Dr Ben came across like he couldn`t make up a batch of grits.

Doesn't that line work better with "rice"?

(anyhow... kinda uncomfortable with the material here. doesn't go to a Happy Place.)

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

@Peachs @JKLtwo @skydog12 "as one of the most colorful and interesting speakers of our time.  "


You mean "readers of the teleprompter" don't you?


If you've heard him off prompter, it ain't pretty.

GrannyGodzilla4
GrannyGodzilla4

Off prompter he most certainly can be "pretty"

Mostly he's thoughtful and well spoken, much better than "pretty"

JKLtwo
JKLtwo

@skydog12 @JKLtwo @Peachs see Romney's 47% comment.

The fact Demwits can seriously bring up hillary's name for president just verifies how clueless the left is when it comes to leadership.  

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Last night Trump revealed his vindictive nature. We already have a vindictive president. I don't want another one. 

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@FIGMO2 Your fellow Georgia Republicans disagreed before last night.  I wonder how they feel today.  Probably better.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@CherokeeCounty

...one of Those People...

I would have cast an enthusiastic vote for Herman Cain, but Jon Huntsman robbed me of the opportunity.

JKLtwo
JKLtwo

@CherokeeCounty @FIGMO2 Another Demwit who slept thru the Bush years.  True getting a clue instead of judging everything based on skin color.

Peachs
Peachs

@FIGMO2 you really think Obama is vindictive.  You have a whole block of voters in the south holding their collective breath and doing anything harmful they can to this man because he is black but he is the vindictive one?  No wonder you people can sleep with your consciences, you invent facts like sleeping pills. 

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@JKLtwo @CherokeeCounty @FIGMO2

Demwit who slept thru the Bush years

You mean the guy who had a 91% approval after he had the worst security breach in our nation's history since 1941 happen on his watch?

Poor guy, he never got a break from those mean, vindictive Democrat voters!

skydog12
skydog12

@FIGMO2


Vindictive is being nice. He looked like he should have been wearing a Toga.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

@FIGMO2 

Agree with your conclusion, but anyone who looks at the current Prez and sees vindictiveness is truly misguided. With all the garbage he's gotten from Republicans who hate the fact that one of Those People is in the White House, he's the most 'un-vindictive' President we've had.

JKLtwo
JKLtwo

@Peachs @FIGMO2 Hard to believe you can breath on your own without the government telling you what to do Peachs.

Someone needs to make some more koolaid because peachs drank it all.

Peachs
Peachs

@SFM_Scootter @CherokeeCounty @FIGMO2 we dance around race just like the Republicans dance around Trump. I have a lot more respect for a pure bigot than a coward closet bigot who thinking his toupee on race and hate is covering up anything.  

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@JKLtwo @Visual_Cortex @CherokeeCounty @FIGMO2

Good to know you never criticized him for the war on terror...

Oh, so he got a free pass forever-after no matter how FUBAR things got with his Excellent Iraq Adventure? 

No matter what kind of police state his team put in place here in the US?

You've a lot more folks than mere "Demwits" to castigate if you're gonna go there, because plenty of GOPers were fed up with that act before it had run its course.


Peachs
Peachs

@JKLtwo @Peachs @FIGMO2 real freedom is not being given marching orders from a "think tank" in Washington and using them as an excuse to read Cliff Notes instead of reading the book. Real non government involvement is serving alcohol on Sunday because you know your flock won't buy it., selling chicken sandwiches on Sunday because you know it is just a sales gimmick and we don't do that in the Republican Party we are for freedom and facts.