On gay rights debate, Gov. Deal just does not get it

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With a potentially bitter battle looming in next year’s General Assembly between those who want to protect gay Georgians from discrimination and those who demand a government-guaranteed right to discriminate, Gov. Nathan Deal has stepped forward to play mediator:

“As long as we follow the federal model, which has not produced the kinds of catastrophic results that maybe both sides are predicting that legislation of that type would do, I think we stand a very good chance of getting a piece of legislation accomplished that will rightfully protect people from government in terms of their religious beliefs and at the same time not be disruptive to commerce.”

Deal’s framing of the issue strikes me as odd but unintentionally revealing. He casts it as a debate with two sides and two valid interests at stake. On the one hand he wants to “protect people from government in terms of their religious beliefs,” but he also wants to make sure that any resulting legislation doesn’t anger major Georgia corporations and interfere with the bidness of making money.

Maybe I’m wrong, but … aren’t there gay people involved in this somewhere? Isn’t that what this REALLY is about?

Where is Deal’s concern for gay Georgians who fear being fired from jobs or being denied marital benefits, the right to rent or buy a home, the right to adopt or just the right to be treated like everybody else? Do they not exist? Don’t they have rights that also should be “rightfully protected”, as the governor puts it? Shouldn’t they at least be acknowledged by their governor as people with more at stake than any other party?

The answer appears to be no. Gay Georgians are invisible to Deal. In the governor’s formulation, this is strictly a struggle between religious conservatives and commerce, with no acknowledgement of the underlying civil rights and anti-discrimination element.  He is concerned about the issue, but only to the degree that it might cost the state jobs, money and economic development.

And by trying to ignore the real issue, Deal highlights it.

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Corey
Corey

 Penses 3 hours ago 

Do you view fellow Americans who you call euphemisms, homosexuals, or whatever as citizens who should be afforded all rights and privileges as you, or do you see them as mere walking sex acts undeserving of any constitutional rights? 

Point
Point

Once again Deal just doesn't get it and doesn't care as long as people keep giving him money and voting republican!


I have always found that my God has everything worked out.  Since the planet He created for us is overcrowded and struggling to sustain all humans, why wouldn't He create some humans who don't need to procreate but will adopt hard to place children and provide them with a loving home. 

juliainatlanta
juliainatlanta

Oh, Sleazy will get it as soon as he can figure out how to make money out of it for him and his equally sleazy friends and family.

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

"And by trying to ignore the real issue, Deal highlights it."


Because, if you are our governor, that's what you do!

straker
straker

foo2u


Who is this "derp" you keep referring to?

Penses
Penses

"Maybe I’m wrong, but … aren’t there gay people involved in this somewhere?"


You mean homosexuals? Let's dispense with the euphemisms, Jay - I mean, if we are going to be "real". The term "gay" is one that was, by their won admission, adopted by homosexual activists as a euphemism for a (still) negatively viewed word. They want to dress up sodomy in happy attire, I guess - hoping that we will all feel so much better about things like a**l sex. And I guess it worked - at least for people like you.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@Penses there's more to sodomy than a--l sex. why most folks have probably engaged in it  . . .

jezel
jezel

@JayBook @Penses What people hate in others...is the same thing they hate in themselves.

JayBook
JayBook moderator

@Penses 

You're not going to blame religious faith for teaching you that hatred, are you?

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

Usain Bolt ran a 9.58 100m dash in Berlin in 2009. That t'aint nuthin though. Hillary ran a 8.2 100m dash when fleeing gunfire on a Bosnian tarmac. She can move that a$$ under heavy gunfire. 

foo2u
foo2u

I volunteer to bake a cake for any of you who are forced to gay marry...


Derp...

foo2u
foo2u

SSDD...


Derp...

straker
straker

Lenin


Are you saying everything IS America's fault?

LeninTime
LeninTime

@CherokeeCounty 

But at some point everything is NOT America's fault.  Some of their problems are the result of their own cultural issues, yes.

**
Well, if that's how you see the situation in Syria, then you are showing just how ill-informed you are. 

But of course, if all you've been following is the mainstream press, that's hardly surprising.


Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

"As I told others, if you're going to blanket the entire movement over the actions of a few, then you're a Rebel flag waving, gay hating, racist just because of the actions of a few Conservatives.

If you're going to judge with a blanket, then so shall you be judged by the same blanket."


Hmm. The basis of a few? Its that scale and proportion thing again with the progs. Sorry, Bro. But that dog aint gonna hunt. When most if not the entire audience boos and shuts down gov Omalley then that's more than "the actions of a few".  And when a marching crowd is chanting the "pig in a blanket, fry like bacon" routine that's more than "the actions of a few".


Furthermore, we need to employ some critical thinking skills here and look at the distinction made between some far flung people in any movement that go nuts and what the leadership of the movement is saying. And when we see Tea Party leaders making speeches they are making the case for limited govt, lower taxation levels, etc., you know, the principles upon which the whole country was built. And they do so in a calm, reasoned manner. Then they pick up their lawn chairs, clean up after themselves, and, since they already paid their permit fees for the event, they then quietly go home. 


Contrast that with the leaders of the BLM movement- The same folks who bullied O'Malley then hijacked a couple of Bernie Sanders events and went on their little tirades after hijacking these events. And then the leaders of BLM were the ones right out front leading the march with the pigs frying like bacon chant. 


It doesn't surprise me that you are unwilling or unable to understand the difference in tone and civility between the leaders of the 2 groups.  Doesn't surprise me in the least. 

straker
straker

Lenin


Instead of asking about the Fed, try asking those here about their favorite sitcoms and action figures.


You'll get a much better response.

straker
straker

Byte - "need to work out their sexual frustrations"


That certainly applies to many of the gun nuts here and elsewhere.



DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

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KUTGF
KUTGF

@DownInAlbany Ohhhhh please can you fill it with some Hillary T-shirts for all my Canadian friends?

straker
straker

Eye Wonder - "see you in detention"


I'll be the principal.


Behave or I'll expel you for a month.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@straker Sounds like some folks need to work out some of their sexual frustrations.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

straker - "Its time to stop posting here and do your homework."


See you in detention at 4.

LeninTime
LeninTime

So @Hedley_Lammar what do you think the Fed is going to do to resolve its crisis? Is it going to raise rates or keep the spigots open?

ByteMe
ByteMe

@LeninTime Following what?  I follow the Fed... near as I can tell, no crisis at all right now.  They're kind-a bored.

LeninTime
LeninTime

@ByteMe @LeninTime 

They're anything but bored. They're in the policy equivalent of a 747 trying to figure out how to get it down from 37000 ft., with no landing gear.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@LeninTime Meh.  So you say.  That's not a "crisis", that's standard operating procedure for an economy this big and complex.  Everything is a guess, including what you think they should do.

LeninTime
LeninTime

@ByteMe 

Meh. So you say.

**
I think you should pay a little more close attention to the financial press. You'll see that this is anything but well charted ground that the Fed has gotten itself in.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@LeninTime the past is prologue, not something we repeat over and over.  I do read quite a bit of the financial "press", and you're crying wolf over nothing that anyone is going to act on.

LeninTime
LeninTime

@ByteMe @LeninTime 

the past is prologue, not something we repeat over and over.  

**
That's the whole point; there is nothing like what the Fed has done with its zero interest policy over the past 7 years from the past to compare with. 

These are uncharted waters. 

KUTGF
KUTGF

OMG both Cheneys agree Davis is wrong and should issue the licenses.  Does anyone have an ice scraper I can borrow?

ByteMe
ByteMe

@KUTGF They are "law and order, the elites know what's best for you, and by the way, we are the elites" kind of people, so why does this surprise you?

TomMiddleton
TomMiddleton

@KUTGF 

So Liz is now endorsing gay marriage? I know sister Mary must be glad to hear that's finally true.

straker
straker

Eye Wonder - "I never said I liked it"


Its time to stop posting here and do your homework.


Off you go now.


There's a good boy.

LeninTime
LeninTime

@Doggone_GA @LeninTime 

If it's their land, it's their resources

**
You say that like basic norms of international law actually still apply after 8 years of Bush and 7 years of Obama. A bit naive, I would say.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@LeninTime Are you sure you're not talking about Russia and Siberia?

Doggone_GA
Doggone_GA

@LogicalDude @LeninTime @Doggone_GA Personally, I don't even know if Exxon does drilling.  They might be like Shell and contract it out to drilling companies.  And so can Egypt do that.  Why have a big corporation as middle-man when you can just go directly to the drilling companies?