GOP assault on Planned Parenthood collapses into futility

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The latest in a string of investigations by Georgia and other largely conservative states into allegations against Planned Parenthood — this one in Missouri — came back today with the identical result as all its predecessors: No evidence of wrongdoing, no evidence of law-breaking.

“As a result of our investigation, the Office of the Missouri Attorney General has found no evidence that [Planned Parenthood] has engaged in unlawful disposal of fetal organs and tissue…. The information and documentation we reviewed did not reveal any irregularities involving the transmission, examination or disposal of the fetal organs and tissue from surgical abortions performed at [Planned Parenthood.]”

And the news goes on. In Utah, for example, a federal judge today issued a temporary restraining order against Gov. Gary Herbert, requiring him to reinstate federal funding to Planned Parenthood in his state because he could offer no evidence that the agency had acted inappropriately and thus had no excuse to bar funding. Even more telling, several new national polls have been released documenting overwhelming public support for continued funding of Planned Parenthood.

According to a new USAToday poll, for example, 65 percent of Americans say funding of Planned Parenthood should continue; just 29 percent say it should be halted. An even larger 73 percent opposes shutting down the federal government over the issue, and Americans would blame Republicans for such a shutdown by more than a four-to-one margin over President Obama and the Democrats.

Polls by the Pew Center, CBS/New York Times, Quinnipiac and NBC/Wall Street Journal report similarly lopsided support for Planned Parenthood. That’s five consecutive major national polls all reporting the same thing, yet conservatives are so caught up in their own sanctimonious image, and so certain that the American people side with them on the issue, that only the resignation of John Boehner as speaker saved the GOP from driving over the edge of this particular cliff.  They act as if it’s a conspiratorial betrayal of basic democracy that their own minority viewpoint is somehow not imposed on everybody else.

It’s just amazing.

The situation has gotten so bad for the Republicans that at a congressional hearing on Planned Parenthood today, Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz of Utah was reduced to criticizing Planned Parenthood President Celia Richards for her $500,000-plus salary, suggesting that it proved that the organization was undeserving of Medicaid subsidies.

“The question before us is: Does this organization — does Planned Parenthood really need a federal subsidy? Does it need federal dollars? Every time we spend a federal dollar, what we’re doing is pulling money out of somebody’s pocket and we’re giving it to somebody else. What I don’t like, what I don’t want to tolerate, what I don’t want to become numb to is wasting those taxpayer dollars.”

First, the payments in question aren’t subsidies at all. They are reimbursements to Planned Parenthood for medical care provided to Medicaid patients, payments made at the same rate as to other medical providers. And for comparison’s sake, here are a few more salaries paid by other organizations that also accept Medicaid reimbursements for services rendered:

  • Wayne Smith, CEO of Community Health Systems, $26 million
  • Trevor Fetter, CEO of Tenet Health Care, $17.9 million
  • Alan Miller, CEO of Universal Health Services, $18.4 million
  • Larry Merlo, CEO of CVS Healthcorp, $32.4 million.

Let me know when Chaffetz calls those men up to Capitol Hill for a grilling.

UPDATE: In addition, we now know a lot more about the few seconds of footage that had been inserted from another unknown source into a separate “documentary” about Planned Parenthood. That heartbreaking footage of a 17-week-old fetus struggling vainly for life on an operating table apparently comes from a tragically premature birth in which the fetus was simply much too unformed to survive.

That footage of someone’s personal tragedy was then pawned off as evidence of an abortion, and further misrepresented as video evidence of an intact, living fetus about to be dissected for its organs at Planned Parenthood, none of which was apparently true. Carly Fiorina, among others, has some apologies to make, although I have no expectation they will be forthcoming.

In short, anti-abortion advocates hijacked somebody’s else’s tragedy and violated their privacy in an effort to score political points, and that’s just beneath contempt.

 

 

 

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Normd
Normd

Boys and girls!  Do you know what time it is???  It's VIDEOGHAZI TIME!!!  Starring those lovable buffoons...The DUPED REPUBLICANS!!!  YEA! YEA! YEA!!!

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@ByteMe @Normd I think Jay is also blocked from posting new sheetz.  Over 2000 comments without a new topic???

KUTGF
KUTGF

@ByteMe @Normd Perhaps the good news is that our RWers may actually read the post BEFORE commenting.  ;D

Paul42
Paul42

td1234

"@LogicalDude I will put it in language you can understand. 


Abortion is the killing of a human being. Abortion is evil. People that preform abortions are evil. People that support abortion are unsaved and do not know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and savior IMHO. 


Clear enough for you? "

You left out the part about abortion's okay if it's for a reason for which you approve.

And it's double okay if it doesn't happen all that often, 'cause in the grand scheme of things, what's the death of a few people?

So... do those exceptions make you unsaved and not familiar with Jesus?  Is this what this is all about?  td angst?

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@Paul42 @LogicalDude To td's credit; he hasn't said he's outraged about, and I credit him for not being outraged about it: 


Planned Parenthood getting paid a bunch of money for donated material. 


He wasn't fooled by that lie at all. 

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@Paul42 @LogicalDude not as a profit-making enterprise.  Is this incorrect?


Correct. 


The charge to the recipient is for the surgery.  I don't think there is a line-item charge for "donated organ" on the bill. 

If there is, then yep, that should be examined. 

Paul42
Paul42

@LogicalDudez


I was of the understanding PP's reimbursed expenses associated with the process, not as a profit-making enterprise.  Is this incorrect?

One thing that DOES bother me is when people sign organ donation cards in a desire to help others, facilities harvest the organs and then people mark up the charge to recipients to astronomical levels.  THAT is something worthwhile  that Republicans could investigate.

KUTGF
KUTGF

Reposting for TD not to miss:


So if editing is always okay, let me edit your words because they must be true, even if I have edited deceptively. 

TD:  "I can defend abortions after seeing what happens on the video...I will have a clear conscience on this issue when facing God." [edited]

There is the magic of editing when done deceptively.  I am sure that my editing is okay and we don't have to look at your actual post.

td1234
td1234

@KUTGF So every news story ever seen is a lie since they ALL edit. Is that what you are trying to tell us? 

KUTGF
KUTGF

@td1234 Oh sweetie, is that what you really think is a intelligent response?  Do you know the difference between accurate and deceptive editing?  Even with an example you cannot see the difference?

KUTGF
KUTGF

@Doom Classical liberal Oh buffoomy.....  Little Jimmy deceptively edited the Acorn videos too as stated by many AGs. 


But do go on.....

OldEngineer
OldEngineer

@td1234 @KUTGF Two Dogs must be tearing up his dialup service, trying to find that last straw to grasp.

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

@KUTGF


Its interesting. All I see is the progs complaining about one commercial with a fetus and whether or not that fetus was aborted or something like that. 


I've yet to see any of them specify where all the other tapes were edited. For example, Kyle posted the initial video which shows them having a lunch with the butcher from PP. It was 2 straight hours of video. Can't figure out what ya'll are screaming about with that one and I haven't really seen any progs dispute the content of what the various PP butchers had to say. All I see is some talk about a fetus in a Fiorna commercial. That's pretty weak. 

gotalife
gotalife

td uses fact free debate, You are debating a mannequin,

Normd
Normd

If td won't provide the source, then....he's being mendacious


gotalife
gotalife

mccarthy already screwed up and thanked gowdy for his hit job on Hillary.


This ends all hearings.


Just playing politics.

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

td: "Clear enough for you? "


So, nothing new in the video, right?   NOTHING NEW.  You could basically ignore the video and still say the same thing.  I'm asking about THE VIDEO.  What information in the video makes you outraged, you know, that you were NOT outraged about before the video? 


I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. 

ByteMe
ByteMe

@LogicalDude The video and PP are just an excuse.  They already thought badly enough of every woman they don't know (and some they do) to force them to carry a fetus to term in all circumstances.  This episode is just an excuse to raise the volume on their feelings.

ByteMe
ByteMe

So td is claiming an "expert witness" yesterday testified that the videos were not deceptively edited.  I can't find a link to any article mentioning this.  Is he blowing smoke or did someone testify to this yesterday?

KUTGF
KUTGF

@ByteMe I did not see that part and I watched a good deal.  I am confident that would have been reported.  I say he is blowing something....  not surprising. 

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

@Eye wonder


And for the 2nd time today Eye wonder will accuse a con of lying. And for the 2nd time today he'll do it without one scintilla of evidence. SSDD. 

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@ByteMe

You asked that rhetorically, right? td always always always lies.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@Eye wonder You'd think he'd want a better reputation if someone ever outed his full name.

gotalife
gotalife

Here is a list of Donald Trump’s greatest hits compiled by USA Today:

Jeb Bush is “weak” ...

Bobby Jindal is at “zero” in the polls.

Lindsey Graham is a “total lightweight.”

Karl Rove is “a total loser.”

Chuck Hagel and George Will are “morons.”

On Rick Santorum: “I have a big plane. He doesn’t.”

On Fox newscaster Megyn Kelly after the Republican debate on Aug. 6: “Fox viewers give low marks to bimbo.”

On Megyn Kelly on her returning from vacation in late August: “The bimbo’s back in town. I hope not for long.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/roger-simon-democracy-overrated-voting-214236#ixzz3nFkp0usC


Pathetic.

straker
straker

td - "claim their stories are legitimate"


Maybe you should contact your political idols in Congress and tell them 60 minutes is showing stories that are not legitimate.


Let us know what they say.



straker
straker

Penses - "pro-abortionists"


I guess that included the Supreme Court, since they have yet to overturn Roe vs Wade.


Send this Wikipedia post to them and let us know what they say.

td1234
td1234

How does 60 minutes do weeks, months and years worth of investigation and put them into a 15 minute story on the air? Do they edit to follow their story line? Why do progressives claim their stories are legitimate? 

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@td1234 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz keep twisting . . . y'all might come up with something analogous at some point

ByteMe
ByteMe

@td1234 And when they edit something to make it a lie, you and your ilk scream bloody murder about it for years on end.

td1234
td1234

@ByteMe Stop drinking the koolaid and watch the video yourself. You have watched it have you not? 

td1234
td1234

@ByteMe Well the expert witness, under oath, before Congress yesterday blew that report away. 

ByteMe
ByteMe

@td1234 I have.  And I also looked at the report showing where they made cuts that took out important information.  And I also read the reports about how unrelated footage was inserted to make it look related.  And all that means is they lied.  So who drank the koolade, me for doing more research or you for accepting it at face value?

KUTGF
KUTGF

@td1234 Why do you keep posting stupidity.  Again, as I have already responded to you and others, there is nothing wrong with editing as long as it is accurate and does not distort. 


I know I have seen you complain about "context".  So if editing is always okay, let me edit your words because they must be true. 

TD:  "I can defend abortions after seeing what happens on the video...I will have a clear conscience on this issue when facing God."

There is the magic of editing when done deceptively 

td1234
td1234

@LogicalDude I will put it in language you can understand. 


Abortion is the killing of a human being. Abortion is evil. People that preform abortions are evil. People that support abortion are unsaved and do not know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and savior IMHO. 


Clear enough for you? 

ByteMe
ByteMe

@td1234 got a link to that so-called expert witnesses'  testimony or even an article about it?

td1234
td1234

@ByteMe Several posters have already posted. Read below. 

ByteMe
ByteMe

@LogicalDude Let me save you the time waiting for an answer:

The answer is yes.

consumedconsumer
consumedconsumer

@td1234 actually, executions are the killing of a human being . . . it is evil . . . people who support the death penalty are evil . . . people that support executing people are unsaved according to their religion, whether they claim to know JC as their 'persona'' lord and savior, imho, you vassal.



LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@td1234 wow, trying to change the subject of edited video away from edited to make it a lie. 


Do you support lying outright to make your argument? 

ByteMe
ByteMe

@td1234 The author of the videos refuses to testify to that same Congress.  Why do you think that is?  Because he's righteous and truthful?  or because maybe he did somethings that were illegal and unethical and doesn't want to talk about it?

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@td1234 @LogicalDude "Clear enough for you? "


So, nothing new in the video, right?   NOTHING NEW.  You could basically ignore the video and still say the same thing.  I'm asking about THE VIDEO.  What information in the video makes you outraged, you know, that you were NOT outraged about before the video? 


I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. 

hamiltonAZ
hamiltonAZ

Not completely. Could you sort out fact from opinion?

Oh, wait, never mind. I can see now it's all opinion. Good for you, though some have differing opinions.