Budget deal reported, but conservatives won’t be happy

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House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and President Obama have reportedly agreed on a two-year spending deal that would also include an increase in the nation’s debt ceiling large enough to take us into March of 2017, when we will have a new president and a new Congress. They can then pick up the fight once again, presumably with a better idea of what the American people would support.

The outlines of the deal, as reported by Politico:

“The ambitious accord, which is being negotiated by top House, Senate and White House officials, would boost defense and non-defense spending by $50 billion next year, and $30 billion the year after, split evenly between defense and non-defense programs. Negotiations are fluid, however, and specifics might change before legislation is filed.”

If that’s an accurate report, it’s very good news and would represent an important accomplishment for Boehner, who had pledged to “clean the barn” a bit for his successor before leaving office Friday.  But because it doesn’t repeal ObamaCare or defund Planned Parenthood, because it sidesteps the emotionally satisfying cliffhanger of a possible government shutdown or default, and because it allows for minor spending increases on domestic as well as defense programs, it is also likely to cause a full-blown conniption fit among conservatives.
For example, here’s the reaction at Drudge:budeal1
Notably, Paul Ryan is reportedly being kept far from the “scene of the crime”, with no involvement in or even knowledge of the negotiations, so he can pick up the speaker’s gavel with clean hands. However, the AP reports that the proposed plan closely echoes a plan that Ryan authored with Democratic Sen. Patty Murray in 2013 but that conservatives rejected at the time.

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Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

I'm just glad I don't have to pay a tax for every stock trade or a tax on all of my capital gains or qualifying dividends.  That would really suck.

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@InTheMiddle2 @Numbers_R_Us You tell yourself whatever you need to if it makes it easier for you to get through the day.  Granted, I could do better than Fidelity's $7.95 trade price though.  I should look into that.

straker
straker

53% - "an issue speaking for others"


I don't see you denying my observation about you, Sparky.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@fiftythreepercenter 

  You wouldn't agree to forking over 35% and we both know that.

It seems you have an issue with speaking for others.  Might want to work on that.

BobbyTillman
BobbyTillman

Corrupt and an inept leadership within our government branches ...

It was bad enough when Pelosi told he Democratic Socialist Party liberal colleagues to go ahead and sign the ObamaCare bill without reading it and without studying its effects on our nations economy and the American people  so that it would be passed on to Obama to sign and that they would find out what is in the bill after it is signed into law ... AND, WHAT HAS IT DONE TO THE AMERICAN ECONOMY AND TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

Now that the Grand Ole Party (GOP), and their careerist Good Ole Boys (Goobers) run Congress and the Senate ... Guess what ? They did the same thing by passing the budget without reading it or studying its effects on the American economy and its citizens ...

Laws and budgets just written ... never read nor studied but passed on down for this inept president to sign into law no mater what the effects it will have on our nation and on the American people ... A Five year old could do just as good as our leadership  is doing EVEN WITH a Conservative ran Congress and Senate ... No wonder that America is as screwed up as it is ...

Claver
Claver

@BobbyTillman Yes.  Obama is "inept" and yet he always manages to get what he wants from Bohner and McConnell.  How is that? 

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

A Republican friend of mine used to curse out President Obama every time someone even uttered the word "Obamacare" within hearing distance.  Now that he has a real insurance policy that he signed up for at healthcare.gov, he's okay with that part of what those no good Democrats did.  Bwah hahahahahha!

straker
straker

53%


It seems clear you bitterly resent having to pay ANY taxes at all.


Still, you don't mind police, fire and military protection.

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

Next year I get to keep that 6% that Georgia used to take out of my pension.  Thanks, Georgia Republicans, for dumping that burden on Georgia Republicans.

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

"Of course not. That's damaging to the poor. 

How about raising the top rate for those who can afford it until the budget is balanced? Until the debt is paid off? 

Once that's done, the rate can be lowered again. "


You'd have to be one dumb sumbeech to buy into that ^^^^^ plan.  How do you suppose the tax code got to where it is now?  You think somebody woke up one day and said "lets make half the people pay for the other half" and people bought it?  


BTW, the starter rate in Sweden is 35%.  No exceptions.  You want that utopia, start paying for it.

honested
honested

@fiftythreepercenter 

I would be quite happy to mirror the Sweedish system both in taxes and in Civilization.

How old were you when this warped notion of not enjoying nor paying for Civilization set in?

SimpleTruths
SimpleTruths

 "This crap again?

Every consumer pays taxes, sport.

Just reiteratin'."

New Hampshire residents might disagree...

KUTGF
KUTGF

@SimpleTruths They don't pay social security taxes?  Federal gas taxes?  FUTA?  Property taxes?  Just to name a few

Kamchak
Kamchak

@KUTGF 

Cell phone tax

Cigarette tax.

Liquor tax

Tire tax

Fire arm and ammo

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@SimpleTruths 

Nice to hear that New Hampshire residents don't pay taxes.  Someone needs to explain to me why gas prices in NH are way higher than in NJ or why there was a line on my receipt at Uno Pizzeria the other night that was listed "tax".

Then again, what do I know - all I am is a resident of NH

TBS
TBS

DIA

As of May 2014....... Now what you you saying about the number of hearings?

 Beyond that, nothing is settled. In fact, Republicans may be going on something of a mission improbable to yield new information and turn up new clues in a wide-ranging probe that has already spanned 13 hearings, 25,000 pages of documents and 50 briefings.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/mission-improbable-trey-gowdy-gets-into-benghazi-106326#ixzz3pmjVuk8G

Including the one last week you can go google if there were any additional hearings over the last 16 or so months. 

Time to get out of the brietbart bubble.......

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

The only things Republicans tax are sane people's patience with their stupidity.  They actually think that tax cuts pay for themselves.

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

@InTheMiddle2 @Numbers_R_Us Well, yes, businesses take people's money and use it to do little things like provide paved roads so people can get to the stores and let businesses take money.  Such a vicious cycle, isn't it.

InTheMiddle2
InTheMiddle2

@RoadScholar @InTheMiddle2 @Numbers_R_Us It does it very very very poorly. All you need do is look at how poorly the infrastructure of the Atlanta metro area was designed and it becomes very clear that government cannot do anything well.

stefpe
stefpe

@InTheMiddle2 @honested @stefpe @Numbers_R_Us The internet changed the world. It's created hundreds of thousands of jobs. I doubt DARPA's initial funding was more than a billion. I'd say that's a hell of an ROI.

The space program employed tens of thousands. Probably still does.

stefpe
stefpe

@InTheMiddle2 @Numbers_R_Us How many jobs did the space program in the fifties and sixties create? Who paid for that?

Oh yeah. Who paid for the development of this here internet thing we're on right now? How many jobs did that create?

NWGAL
NWGAL

Boys, boys, boys. All this name calling. FYI Jody Hice is voting for Paul Ryan as Speaker. How many True Republicans are left?

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@NWGAL He didn't know what he was saying....he always does not know what he is saying!

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

"OK so let's raise State Sales Tax 2%.

And return the top marginal Federal rate to 49% (on all types of income).

That should make everyone happy."


Why don't you agree to pay 49%?  Please explain what would be wrong with that plan?

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@fiftythreepercenter @LogicalDude Of course not. That's damaging to the poor. 

How about raising the top rate for those who can afford it until the budget is balanced? Until the debt is paid off? 

Once that's done, the rate can be lowered again.