Avoiding a holiday civil war over Trump

Review of the year 2010

When Donald Trump bought a run-down golf course on the Potomac River, he wanted something to jazz it up, to give the property a little flair. So, Trump being Trump, he decided to pretend that a major Civil War battle had occurred on the site, then “memorialized” the faux battle with a plaque between the 14th and 15th holes.

It reads:

“Many great American soldiers, both of the North and South, died at this spot. The casualties were so great that the water would turn red and thus became known as ‘The River of Blood.’ ”

Just to be clear, Trump didn’t merely exaggerate, blowing some minor skirmish into a major confrontation. The whole thing was a fabrication, from beginning to end. History, reality, facts — concepts that constrain the thinking of lesser mortals — simply do not exist for Trump, and that ability to re-imagine the world and then sell it to others has pushed him into the lead for the Republican presidential nomination.

Not many saw this coming. I certainly did not imagine last summer that Trump would be leading in the polls come Labor Day. And Halloween. And now Thanksgiving. In a newly released Fox poll, 28 percent of Republicans say they will vote for Trump, his best showing yet in that poll. The fading Ben Carson is at 18 percent, with Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz each at 14 percent.

Jeb Bush is at 5 percent, down among the likes of Mike Huckabee and Chris Christie.

Trump also leads when GOP voters are asked whom their second choice would be, and he would be the prime beneficiary if Carson were to drop out of the race. And according to Fox News, Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton 46-41 in a general election contest.

Looking a bit deeper, the Fox poll also challenges some of the accepted wisdom surrounding Trump and his supporters, which holds that his base is generally male, older and blue collar. That description may underplay the breadth of the Donald’s support.

Among college-educated GOP voters, the leading candidate is Trump, with Carson in second. The leading candidate among female GOP voters is also Trump. He leads among those making more than $50,000 a year and among those 45 and younger. He even has a one-point lead over Carson among white evangelicals.

In other words, if you aren’t a Trump supporter yourself, the odds are pretty high that you will be sharing Thanksgiving dinner with someone who is. It may even be someone whom you love and respect, such as family members and close friends. My own advice in such situations would be to find things other than politics to discuss — “hey, how ’bout those Falcons!” “Seen any good movies lately?” “Tell me more about your fascinating macrame project!” — and to carve the turkey before it gets to the table, so that no sharp knives are around.

At least, that’s going to be my strategy. Wish me luck.

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fedup52
fedup52

Since we are on the abortion, do any know the reason behind Roe vs Wade law.  Earlier there was a lot of back wood abortion going on and many women dying because of that.  Is that the reason?

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

Since you LIbs are so up on abortion facts, studies, etc. do you know if there has been a study on how many women would somehow avoid pregnancy if they knew beforehand there would be no welfare? 

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@JohnnyReb 

Seems an unlikely circumstance, but feel free to present whatever evidence you can find...

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

@Kamchak Sooooo, IF it's true....100,000 supposedly represents 7%, right?  Then that means that there were 1.4 million abortions in Texas during that time frame?  Sounds VERY credible, amirite?

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@Kamchak  "An estimated 100,000 to 240,000 women of reproductive age in Texas have attempted a self-induced abortion at some point in their lives, according to a new study."

Breck states those numbers are since Texas changed the abortion law when, in fact, the article/study says some point in their life.

Quite a difference.

JamVet
JamVet

Yet again the bombastic and buffoonish billionaire steps right in his own pile of steaming ____...

Black religious leaders: No Trump endorsement

(CNN)Donald Trump canceled a press conference with black pastors Monday after some of the invitees rebutted his campaign's statement that they would endorse him, but the billionaire businessman still expects to win some of them over after a private meeting.

Several black pastors invited to meet with Trump denied reports that they were going to endorse the presidential candidate at the event, and at least one lashed out at the Republican front-runner on Facebook.

breckenridge
breckenridge

Well gotalife the crazy thing is that there are some people so incredibly dense they think shuttering Planned Parenthood and/or overturning Roe v Wade is somehow going to stop abortion in America.  I mean how stupid is that? Hell over 100,000 women have attempted do-it-yourself abortion in the state of Texas since Dirtbag Perry and scum sucking state legislature started closing down PP facilities.  Duh.  Get a clue you fkn dips.

KUTGF
KUTGF

@breckenridge Rich women can always get an abortion..... they just travel.  The poor however are a different case.  IF our RWers truly cared, they could easily require that all pregnant women be listed and if they lose the baby, they have to provide evidence that it was not an abortion.  They'll argue instead about the "freedom" to seek abortions elsewhere. 

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@KUTGF @JohnnyReb @breckenridge - yea, my mistake on the 1K.

Posting here before means nothing unless you have proof.

Normally, I fall back on this being an opinion blog but when you throw out numbers you need to have backup.

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

I predict the Falcons will win another game... just don't know when.

gotalife
gotalife

Time to profile, hate and discriminate against white rw terrorists.

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

@gotalife It's interesting how the media is saying that we made it through Thanksgiving with no terrorist attack when in fact we did not.  Things that make you go hmmm.

gotalife
gotalife

rw terrorist due in court today.

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

"Well I've long believed these guys that are rabidly anti-choice are nothing but a bunch of fkn sissies, afraid to stand up to real men, so they have to push women around to get their jollies, to make them feel big and tough. Fkn girlie-men, one and all."


Check out Breck putting up a strong contender on the last day of the month for "DUMBEST COMMENT OF THE MONTH".


Geez.....

fiftythreepercenter
fiftythreepercenter

@Kamchak Looks like the dem strategy is to make Hillary look good by making her opponents look bad.  Pretty sad when your candidate is so bad that's all you have left.

JamVet
JamVet

@fiftythreepercenter @Kamchak 

Like that has been happening in this country since the 18th century???

Crack a book and read about the first six presidents, for example.

JQ Adams was vilified (falsely in some cases by Crawford, Jackson and Clay...

Kamchak
Kamchak

@fiftythreepercenter 

Looks like the dem strategy is to make Hillary look good by making her opponents look bad.

Hillary made Trump grow that dreadful comb over? 

Who knew?

Cupofjoe
Cupofjoe

What is it like to sit in front of a computer all day and thank the rest of the world is out to get you?


Blogs are truly crazy town.


I am predicting someone will play the "crazy town bashing card" in 1.2.3


wtf folks-  go meet someone

YouLibs
YouLibs

@Cupofjoe


Think-you so much for rolling up your pants, holding your nose and jumping in with us so frequently. It must be quite a sacrifice for you.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@YouLibs 

Ironic that he posts here, especially under various names.

Kamchak
Kamchak

I'm predicting that someone here will play the "christian bashing" card.

gotalife
gotalife

Corporate media enables domestic rw terrorism.
 Terrorist sympathizers like our cons.

fedup52
fedup52

I hope everybody had a wonderful Thanksgiving and a long vacation.  I did too.

fedup52
fedup52

@CommonSenseisntCommon @fedup52 Saw a big doe.  I let her go (about 50 yd shot).  But the buck was not to be found.  Rut is not on still now in our area.  Hopefully later this week.

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

I'm betting that Bookman is preparing this week's "man-made global warming" op-ed?  Any takers?

JamVet
JamVet

@DownInAlbany 

Of course.

because of what is happening in Paris, though you likely wish upon wish it weren't...

TBS
TBS

I'm betting that Christmas is in December and Thanksgiving was last week

You sure go out on a limb with your predictions

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@DownInAlbany - if Jay posts on Climate change, the counter will be the WSJ article of which I posted references twice but the Lefty's here are in denial.

My money is on him posting yesterday's hardcopy piece on, guess what?????? expanding Medicaid.

Talk about beating a dead horse.

breckenridge
breckenridge

Well I've long believed these guys that are rabidly anti-choice are nothing but a bunch of fkn sissies, afraid to stand up to real men, so they have to push women around to get their jollies, to make them feel big and tough. Fkn girlie-men, one and all.

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

@breckenridge Most folks feel like men that DON'T stand up for what they believe in aren't men, at all.  Just sayin