This ‘fiscal conservatism’ commitment is only a sometime thing

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The Republican-dominated House of Representatives voted 318-109 Thursday in favor of a proposal that will add another $650 billion to the nation’s debt over the next decade. Once interest payments are added in, the total impact on the debt rises to $800 billion.

“Where did all the deficit hawks go?” a bemused Nancy Pelosi said after voting against the tax-cut package. “Probably part of the endangered species, I don’t know.”

In Republican economics, you see, the additional $800 billion in debt that will occur as a result of this bill somehow doesn’t really count. Sure, they haul out their fainting couches and stage a national melodrama every time the debt limit has to be increased, and in the past have demanded that even emergency spending on disaster relief and aid to 9/11 responders had to be “offset” with spending cuts elsewhere. They’ll also rail against the IRS for the complexity of the tax code, as if the tax collection agency was responsible for enacting special-interest tax breaks for NASCAR, horse-racing tracks, foreign real-estate investors that this bill provides, and that make the code so complicated.

But when opportunity arises, when the deficit and debt are increased by cutting taxes, somehow that’s different.  The math is the same; the impact on the nation’s bottom line is the same. Yet … somehow it isn’t. Don’t ask me how that works, because I don’t know.

One other note:  The spending and tax bills now rushing their way through Congress — the roughly 2,400 pages of legislation were only released in final form to the public and to members of Congress after midnight on Wednesday — apparently contain no effort to defund Planned Parenthood or the EPA’s climate or water programs, or to stop the resettlement of Syrian refugees. Given the chance to enact tax favors, all those other causes apparently faded into insignificance.

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KUTGF
KUTGF

Trumpette Sheetz

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

So, has the GOP decided whether they're going to mount a third-party challenge to Trump?

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@Nick_Danger

I still have a hard time believing he will actually be the nominee. So, too, Snakeoil Cruz.  My money is on Rubio.

TBS
TBS

@skydog12 @Eye wonder @Nick_Danger


Senate possible but not probable imo.

HoR not going to happen. 

If HC wins I think the Ds pick up a few seats in the Senate. Would be very surprised if it was enough for a D majority. 

For the HoR to turn she would need more than just an EC blow out but also a total vote percentage wipe out for that to happen. HC imo is too polarizing to totally wipe out her opponent from a vote percentage stand point

skydog12
skydog12

@TBS @skydog12 @Eye wonder @Nick_Danger


I agree TBS. But we are in uncharted waters. A total implosion by the GOP is possible.


Never underestimate Bill. Any of the males on this sight would be divorced or dead if we pulled what he did.

He is alive and well.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@skydog12 @TBS @Eye wonder @Nick_Danger

I would love love love to see a total implosion of the modern iteration of the GOP.  However, given the binary nature of our political system, I can't ever see that happening, and I especially can't see it happening with someone as polarizing as Hillary Clinton running for the Ds.  But I would gladly take being proven dead wrong on this.  Did I mention how much I would  love love love to see a total implosion of the GOP???

St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

We need 4. We'll get 4.

The house, we need 24, and de-gerrymandering. Yes that will take til 20

skydog12
skydog12

@Eye wonder @skydog12 @TBS @Nick_Danger

I agree, but like I said, we are in uncharted waters.

3 months ago everybody was saying and are still saying, no way Trunp will get the nomination.

I asked back then and will ask now. How you gonna kill him off?

skydog12
skydog12


Roll Tide!


Around the bowl and down the hole Roll Tide Roll.


I don`t hate Alabama, just most of their fans. Like NASCAR, I love fast cars, but their fans suck.


I said MOST bro. : )

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

Falcons saved some of the season yesterday.  A most entertaining game.

skydog12
skydog12

@_GodlessHeathen_

Since we are playoff toast, I was torn between losing and getting a better draft choice or winning and building for next year.

I went with the latter.

Ryan may not be an elite QB, there are only about 6 of those, but he proved he is better than the QBs on 25 other teams. He took some big boy shots yesterday and stayed in the game.

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

@_GodlessHeathen_ @BuckeyeGa @skydog12

Newton maybe? lolol All of the GMs in the NFL including the Falcons would take Newton before Ryan.. I would also take Dalton, Luck,Fitzgerald and Romo before Ryan...That's off the top of my head...ooops I thought I saw Rodgers on the list..Rodgers as well

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

@BuckeyeGa @_GodlessHeathen_ @skydog12 

 Romo?  LOL!
Newton has had a good year but got exposed yesterday.  A little pressure and he goes to pieces.  NTM he won't last long in the NFL taking those hits, see the longevity of running backs, and they are tough guys, too.

td1234
td1234

@BuckeyeGa The NFL is all about protecting the QB. Any QB in the league will pick any defense apart when they have the time to throw the football. 

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

@_GodlessHeathen_ @BuckeyeGa @skydog12

The Cowboys season was lost when Romo went down..Their record indicates how good Romo is.  Newton didn't get exposed..they lost a game, like everyone else in the NFL has haha  Newton receiving corp is horrible and he's still throwing TD..He probably has more than Ryan and Ryan has Julio Jones and Roddy...I'm not even going to discuss the running threat Newton is.

fedup52
fedup52

 U.S. banking regulators on Wednesday ordered financial firm Higher One Holdings Inc to pay fines and restitution to borrowers over allegedly "deceptive" marketing practices in the disbursement of student loans.

They were not happy ripping off regular people.  Shame on these banks ripping off kids who are trying their best to get a good education.

KUTGF
KUTGF

@fedup52 Why that is just the fault of too many regulations.  Oy vey.  We need a strong CFPB.

St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

That Business Insider story is written by Rubio's own chief pollster.

This should tip you off - there's the nugget - the answer to 'why are they running these idiots?' - they don't plan to win, that's not even their aim - that's why you see the campy grin/smirk on all of em's faces -

'This HAS to be trick' - and you're right, it is a trick.

When you have 10x the monay as the other side, you can do this - make us waste resources on an Executive Branch race that's already over.

They're trying to save the Senate & the House.

Move the money NOW, DNC. Move it yesterday. Don't spend another dime chasing clowns. You can wipe them out in 2 elections. Cmon man. Get a killa instinct.

KUTGF
KUTGF

Apparently claiming "Jesus was gender fluid" really gets the RWers to go nuts.  Has anyone got any photos of his prom date? 

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Reading about the most recent LE shootings in Chicago, one was in response to a domestic violence call and another an assault.

Now activists are asking why tasers weren't used in both incidences.

Funny, that.

Activists have protested the use of tasers that resulted in deaths.

What's LE to do? They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. 

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@FIGMO2 

You know, I think this is one of those things that depends on "context."  Depends on the individual situation, know what I mean?

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@skydog12 @FIGMO2

Unfortunately, common sense isn't common (especially, but not exclusively, if you're a conned con or connette)!