The sputterings of McCain, etc., on Iran are almost comic

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If you want to believe that God watches out for the United States of America, then John McCain’s failure to win the presidency is pretty strong evidence that you might be right. If we had put a man of such poor judgment and impulse control in the Oval Office, it would have produced disaster.

Of course, his irresponsible decision to name Sarah Palin as his running mate will stand for all time as the best proof of McCain’s bad judgment. Given the arc of Palin’s subsequent career, from veep nominee to reality-show laughingstock, not even McCain supporters argue that one anymore. However, his current rantings over the quick return of our 10 sailors by Iran offer us fresh evidence that at age 79, he has yet to set aside irrationality in favor of wisdom.

In interviews on Fox News and elsewhere, the Arizona senator has been spewing words such as “humiliation”, “desperation”, “ludicrous” and “craven” to describe the outcome.  As he sees it, the only reason that the predicament turned out as it has is because of the desire to protect the recent nuclear deal with Iran. On that point, he’s probably right. Neither side, including Iran, wanted to see years of hard negotiation destroyed over a small, harmless incident. (SEE UPDATE BELOW)

But McCain did. He wanted that outcome badly. He desperately wanted the Iranians to live up to his image of them as cartoon villains in his cartoon world, and they didn’t. That’s why he and his supporters, including much of the GOP presidential field, are today acting like frustrated three-year-olds angry that someone took away their bag of candy. I’m sure we’ll be treated to more such sputtering at tonight’s GOP debate

If Obama had taken the course demanded by McCain and other Republicans — publicly confronting Iran during the high-profile State of the Union address, warning that our sailors must be released or else — imagine the outcome. It would have wrecked the quiet diplomacy then underway. Iran would have balked at being seen as capitulating to U.S. threats, and those sailors would today be marching through the streets of Tehran as trophies captured from the Great Satan. The whole world would be in an uproar.

And you know what? John McCain would be happy. That’s the only kind of world that he and his buddies understand. In their view, that’s not an outcome to be avoided but a situation to be created if possible. Thank goodness he never got the chance.

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UPDATE: I just ran across this, documenting McCain’s much more measured response to a 2001 incident under President Bush in which China forced down a U.S. aircraft, held its crew for 11 days, dismantled our aircraft and forced us to pay them for its return. The contrast is telling.

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FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Did our liberals forget to make jay's bed?

SHEETZ!

fedup52
fedup52

This is for td.  I guess your Google is broke.

State government in September again fell short of revenue projections. This time $21 million short.

The underperforming revenue, coupled with previous bad economic news, present short- and long-term challenges for school funding as Gov. Sam Brownback's income tax cuts reduce one of the major streams of revenue to the state.

In fiscal year 2013, the state collected $2.9 billion in individual income tax. In fiscal year 2014, that figure dropped 14 percent to $2.5 billion.

The nosedive continues.

From July through September of this year, the state collected $574.8 million in individual income tax, which is 8.8 percent less than the same three-month period from the previous year

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@fedup52   Hey - but Brownback  raised the taxes on food.  According to TD the middle class can get to chose whether they want to buy something that is taxed.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@fedup52 At some point the state will go bust


Similar to what Reagan did in California. 

fedup52
fedup52

 Jeb Bush says he misjudged the intensity of anger among Republican voters before his White House campaign and believes the country in 2016 is "dramatically different" than in past elections.

Yet he insists he's still a viable candidate for the Republican presidential nomination,

This is good for a laugh.  I beginning to believe W is the smart on in the family.

Starik
Starik

@fedup52 Not likely.  He just doesn't grasp the toxic nature of the Bush name after 8 years of W.  And memories of the Terry Schiavo affair...

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

Kansas? 

"This week, KCUR radio featured an interview with Kirk Thompson, director of the Kansas Bureau of Investigation. Thompson disclosed that 20 percent of the felony cases referred to the statewide police agency don’t get investigated because there are too few agents to do the work." 

Also, that 6.5% sales tax the governor had to impose really isn't that good for the middle class, is it?


td1234
td1234

@Nick_Danger Why not? The middle class family now gets to choose if paying the taxes worth purchasing a certain item. Before the middle class family sent their money to the government and the government decided how to spend their money. 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@Nick_Danger Also, that 6.5% sales tax the governor had to impose really isn't that good for the middle class, is it?


Its been a disaster



ByteMe
ByteMe

@Nick_Danger You're trying to get a blog troll to admit he's wrong.  You're better off just calling him a blog troll and moving on to something more productive.

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@td1234 @Nick_Danger

The government still decides how to spend that tax money.  LOL! 

And how is that reduced spending power "good" for the middle class? 

And are they really "better off" if the government cannot even afford to investigate an appreciable percentage of the felonies that happen in the state?  Perhaps it would be even "better" for the middle class to dissolve all police services altogether, hmm?

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Hedley_Lammar @Nick_Danger  Yes - and the tax is even on food.  But according to the resident idiot "The middle class family now gets to choose if paying the taxes worth purchasing a certain item"

lvg
lvg

Cruz groveled for the Southern white bigot's vote last night by ranting about New York values. To Trump that was like standing in the way of a galloping bull with no protection.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@lvg  At least he didn't use the word "Hymietown"

fedup52
fedup52

Lindsey Graham is supporting Jeb.  Don't think that will do much for Jeb.

TBS
TBS

@fedup52


Well his 5 supporters might also support JEB

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@fedup52 

I'm still having trouble believing that the Rs are going to commit hara-kiri by not nominating Bush, but if they want to give away this election, who am I to quibble?

SFM_Scootter
SFM_Scootter

@Nick_Danger @fedup52 They have nothing to give away. I said right here a while back that if Clinton decided to enter the race she would be the next Prez. I still think she will too.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@Nick_Danger @fedup52 Bush was their one chance to not nominate a far right cartoon character. 


But the inmates are running the asylum over there now. 


Its going to take a real trashing at the polls before they reform and move back towards the center. 


And its coming. 

TBS
TBS

@Hedley_Lammar @Nick_Danger @fedup52


The Rs had two huge midterms victories which was good for them.

The problem is that midterms are not general elections and it appears some think this is general election is somehow going to be different and like a midterm.  Or at least they are praying, hoping and clicking their heels for a midterm like election 

Time will tell if they are correct but yes the inmates are running the asylum.  

fedup52
fedup52

 Who cares about the government. The middle class residents are doing fine with more money in their pockets. 

An expert on Kansas.  BAWAHAHAHAHAHA

PS: A lying POS

td1234
td1234

@Hedley_Lammar When are you going to learn that the government does not drive an economy? 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@honested @fedup52 Kansas prescribed to the take two tax cuts and call me in the morning method. Its a simpleton approach and way of thinking. But that probably works just fine in Kansas





td1234
td1234

@honested @fedup52 It is only a "failed policy" in the minds of people that want government and beg for government because they do not want to take care of themselves. 


Government has core competencies that should be done at the lowest cost possible. Any other things the government does should be ended and the money sent back to the middle class to spend on their own families. 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@td1234 @honested @fedup52 No


Its pretty much a failed experiment all the way around.


And it can be empirically shown. Their economy is seriously lagging behind the rest of the country.


That isn't some big cosmic coincidence.

TBS
TBS

@td1234 @honested @fedup52


If it was a successful policy then why did the same governor raise sales taxes in efforts to make up for the loss in revenue that created a budget shortfall?

Don't let the facts get in the way of your ranting and whining

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@td1234 @honested @fedup52 Any other things the government does should be ended and the money sent back to the middle class to spend on their own families. 


What part of lowering income taxes and raising sales taxes dramatically means less money in the middle class folks pocket part do you not understand ?


This was about putting money in rich folks hands. You know the job creators. And then watching it trickle.


But it never does. 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@td1234 @Hedley_Lammar But they have less money in their hands.


Because their share of the states tax burden has gone up.


What about this is so hard.


They didn't get the tax cuts.

td1234
td1234

@TBS Still attempting to figure out exactly what is the correct amount of government money needed. Not a problem since taxes overall are still lower for the middle class. 

TBS
TBS

@td1234 @TBS


You can play your usual weak game of deflections all you like but again......


If it was a successful policy then why did the same governor raise sales taxes in efforts to make up for the loss in revenue that created a budget shortfall?

Don't let the facts get in the way of your ranting and whining



td1234
td1234

@Hedley_Lammar Like I said when the money goes to the middle class then they get to decide on what is best. If they want to spend more money then they pay more taxes. If they want to save money and say this item or that item is not worth it then they pay less taxes. The family gets to decide how much taxes they want to pay. 

td1234
td1234

@Hedley_Lammar Wrong. It is about putting money in middle class taxpayers hands and making everyone pay their fair share. 

td1234
td1234

@TBS Simple question. Does the average middle class person in Kansas now have more money (net pay) in their pockets today or before all the tax cuts? 


Not to complicated.

td1234
td1234

@Hedley_Lammar No it was about allowing the middle class to keep more money and spend it on items that best benefits their own family.

honested
honested

@fedup52 

It baffles me why no amount of contrary evidence suggests a recalculation of attachment to the failed policy.

Just make stuff up and everything will be fine!!

Insanity.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@td1234 @Hedley_Lammar And the middle class ends up with less and less money. Which is what is happening in Kansas. No one gets to choose whether to consume certain things or not.


Its been a total disaster for them.


So much so that a Democrat actually had a shot at becoming Governor in the reddest of states.



td1234
td1234

@TBS No you are attempting to complicate the issue and not answer a simple question because it will make your side of the argument look bad. 


BTW: I answered your question below. 

TBS
TBS

@td1234 @TBS


Don't expect someone to answer a question (deflection) when you are purposely avoiding a question that has been asked of you. 

Not that completed.  

But do carry on with your deflections and nonsense

Plus if you had the answer to your question you would have already posted it....

Because there was a tax decrease then tax increases

So you go find the figures and tell us the answer 





If it was a successful policy then why did the same governor raise sales taxes in efforts to make up for the loss in revenue that created a budget shortfall?

Don't let the facts get in the way of your ranting and whining

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@td1234 @TBS  Simple question. Does the average middle class person in Kansas now have more money (net pay) in their pockets today or before all the tax cuts? 


Less.

Because they are paying higher taxes.

TBS
TBS

@td1234 @TBS


I missed it.

Please post it again

We know there was a budget shortfall and a burden shift via sales tax increases

If you have the numbers to show that with the average tax cut for the middle class vs the average tax increase via sales taxes then post it.

Simple as that

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@td1234 @Hedley_Lammar When are you going to learn that the Government isn't some monolithic enemy to be despised.


Those tax cuts weren't about smaller govt. 


It was about trickle down.