Iran releases four Americans, including pastor and reporter

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At least four and perhaps five American citizens imprisoned in Iran have reportedly been released as part of a U.S.-Iran prisoner exchange. Those released include a Christian pastor, a former Marine and a reporter for The Washington Post.

The releases appear timed to coincide with the lifting of international economic sanctions against Iran. As part of the deal to dismantle its nuclear weapons program, Iran has already shipped most of its stockpile of enriched uranium out of the country, dismantled its heavy-water reactor and decommissioned 12,000 nuclear centrifuges, which are now stored under the control of the International Atomic Energy Agency. Each of those steps has now been confirmed by IAEA inspectors.

“I believe it’s not just an important day for economic activities in Iran. It is going to open the possibilities in Iran for economic engagement,” Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javid Zarif said today in Vienna. “What is more important is that it’s an extremely important day for diplomacy. Today is the day where we prove to the world that threats, sanctions, intimidation and pressure don’t work. Respect works. Through respect, through dialogue, we can reach mutually accepted agreements.”

“… it’s now time for all — especially Muslim nations — to join hands and rid the world of violent extremism. Iran is ready,” Zarif said earlier in a tweet.

So … we’ll see. The dismantling of Iran’s nuclear-weapons infrastructure represents a concrete accomplishment that many critics of the Obama administration, including the current Israeli government, had dismissed as impossible. It has now occurred. That doesn’t by any means prove that Iran has permanently abandoned its nuclear ambitions, but it does represent undeniable progress.

The quick, peaceful release of 10 U.S. sailors who wandered into Iranian waters earlier this week, together with today’s announcement, represent additional signs of possible change. It is still too early to conclude that Iran is abandoning its outlaw past, but if such a thing were to occur, this is probably what it would look like.

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Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@ByteMe @StraightNoChaser

They're sure they won Ohio 

yeah, we all had a good long laugh at the so-called "Rove meltdown" these past years. 

But the much more insidious, nagging-at-my-noggin take-away from that oft-replayed Fox News clip is the possibility that the GOP-led state election officials were supposed to have fixed this so that the GOPer magically drew more votes, and the real reason for Rove’s confusion was that he’d been backstabbed by someone in Ohio. 

The more innocent version of this would be that he just had terrible polling analysts who were telling their Fuehrer what he wanted to hear in the bunker those last weeks lest he fire them.

I’d much rather believe the latter version, but can’t, wholeheartedly. 

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@ByteMe @StraightNoChaser 

fixed this so that the GOPer magically drew more votes

you know, like they probably did in Ohio in 2004, but we all sat and ate that excrement sandwich because really, what could we do?

InTheMiddle2
InTheMiddle2

True. But what happened in 72 is not an indication of how good they are today, or not good as the case may be.

Peachs
Peachs

More than Atlanta has got...

SFM_Scootter
SFM_Scootter

@InTheMiddle2 I think VC is speaking more about the reaction of some on the right more than the poll itself.I could be wrong though.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@InTheMiddle2

None, and I mean none, of the polling amalgamators that I frequented in 2012 had Romney with a credible chance of taking the EVs from  October 2012 forward. He had a modest, if short-lived, national polling bounce after his good performance in that first debate, but that was it.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@SFM_Scootter @InTheMiddle2

You're right, but I'm focusing on Rove here, who just seemed completely caught off guard. He's a seasoned pro, and that's really not like him, so that's why I continue to have suspicions. Of course it's pure speculation to have them.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

I like this Donnie Pinko fella.

A man out standing in our fields.

Continue doin' what you do, Donnie. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. 

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@FIGMO2

Peel back the onion, little lass.  Something about Mr. Pinko certainly stands out.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Visual_Cortex @FIGMO2

I have a weakness for the bad boy type.

I married one. 

Although we don't always agree, he's the smartest man I've ever known. Present him with a challenge, he'll meet it every time.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Eye wonder @FIGMO2

Being a member of a sisterhood is not standing apart from, Eye. It's the women who stand outside the group think that I admire most.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@FIGMO2 @Eye wonder

I guess some clarification of the "Three Deflections And You're Out" rule is in order.

Specifically, do the deflections have to be related to the same topic, or do any three deflections in, say, a 24 hour period count? I would prefer the latter but the reality is that we would lose most of our cons on day 1 of implementation.

Comments, quips or questions?

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Eye wonder @FIGMO2

You don't get to cast me out, Eye.

I'm here whether you approve or not.

I'm all about the individual, not the group to which I care not to belong.

Follow your herd. I've got no problem with that.

Mooooooove along.

schnirt

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@FIGMO2 @Eye wonder

Correct, fIGS. I am not the decider here. We have a decider. We also live in a democracy. I was proposing an idea and asking for the group's comment. To the extent that a majority of the group agree, we would then move to ask the decider to implement.

I'm sorry that you take issue with democratic processes.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@FIGMO2 @Eye wonder

fIGS, you're wasting your own time.  You could choose to 'moooove along' but instead you choose to engage. And I wasn't threatening you, either. I'm simply tired of your and others' constant deflections and am proposing rules to deal with it which would apply to all (me included). Say what you mean and mean what you say. Or don't say it it all. Pretty simple.

Seems to me like your conscience isn't all that clean. Why is that? Gee, eye wonder.

schnirt

honested
honested

@ByteMe 

A lightning strike or an unfortunate lighting of a cigarette and it will be front page.

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

You may be slow if you ask christian students to turn to 2 Corinthians and not second Corinthians.  

honested
honested

@StraightNoChaser 

I guess that's what happens when you lack effective handlers.

When you go to a place that speaks a special language, fluency is somewhat important.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

Peachs states below - we will win almost by default unless they find a way around majority vote. 

It's back to Civics 99 for you Peachs.

Have you never heard of the Electoral College?


ByteMe
ByteMe

@Paul42 Trump might win Nevada and Florida.  But he'll lose other parts of the south that were trending "purple".  Cruz won't win NV or FL, but he'll win the states that Romney won, except maybe Montana.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@Visual_Cortex @JohnnyReb I didn't realize you were so slowwwww.

It's not complicated and it does not take hours.

Presidents are not elected by majority vote.


Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@JohnnyReb

there's so much wrong in what just got posted I'd need about three hours to really unpack it.

Paul42
Paul42

@ByteMe @JohnnyReb

Saw that after I posted the same.  I'd still like to know which of those states a Cruz or a Trump would carry.

Probably better to ask that when the drunk o'clock crowd arrives.  Then again, the answers would likely be the same as now.

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

@Byteme,

The Rove meltdown was epic. He knew his bank account would be affected

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

@ByteMe @StraightNoChaser They believed that mittens was going to win by a landslide too until election day and they found out differently.  A hard head makes a soft butt every time.