Another one lost to the ages …

First Bowie, now this? I’m not liking how 2016 is playing out so far.

My favorite Eagles tune would probably be “Life in the Fast Lane.” The guitar riff is memorable, and I thought the melding of lyrics and music on that song was close to perfect. “Faster faster, the lights are turning red!”

However,  the late Glenn Frey once told an interviewer that the song below was the one that he liked best out of the entire Eagles repertoire, the one that he’d like to be remembered for writing and performing. Given the circumstances, I’ll defer to him.

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ptcrunner
ptcrunner

Glenn as a solo artist and a member of The Eagles was a perfectionist whose hard work paid handsome dividends. I love "The One You Love" and "I've Got Mine" https://youtu.be/NZznBNMiZas and everything Glenn did with The Eagles.

skydog12
skydog12

Bruno, one thing we both can`t deny. Our musical heroes were junkies.

I will give both Jerry and Skydog a break. In the late sixties and early 70s there was not a lot of information as to how dangerous heron was.

Today, the medical profession OVER prescribes Oxy, Loratab, delodud, and other drugs as dangerous as heron. 


Why?


Never do harm or some such BS.


Key word OVER.

gotalife
gotalife

@YouLibs @skydog12 Good advice. I told the kids it was a bad idea to take those oxy's but doing drugs is just a stage in life when you are young, stupid and don't listen. They have to do heroin just to feel normal. I tell them that happens when you get old and sick. Take pills to feel normal.

YouLibs
YouLibs

@skydog12


Dr. David Smith founded and ran the Haight Ashbury Free Clinic while I lived in the Bay Area. One night while he was doing a fund-raiser for the clinic with John Lee Hooker on KSAN (the nation's first pirate FM station), he said something that changed the course of my life:


"Heroin is so good, don't even do it once."


I never have.


Everyone I have ever known who was just going to dabble in it got strung out, but made great music in the process.


Then died shortly afterwards.

skydog12
skydog12

@YouLibs @skydog12


Yep, it is THAT good for about 3 weeks, then you are just chasing the beast. People try to give me Oxy and Loratab.

When I refuse, they say, but you will really like it. I say, I know I would, but unless you have a footlocker full, No thanks.

If a Dr. tells me I have 2 months to live, I`m in.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

Thanks. A few tidbits I'd not heard before, although some seems a bit sketchy.

LHardingDawg
LHardingDawg

I saw the Eagles many times over the years. The first time was in the early 70's in Savannah and the last time in Atlanta for the History tour. One memorable time was at the Omni in Atlanta for the Hotel California tour. We bought tickets from the box office two hours before showtime and set on the eight row in the middle. Great seat and great show. One of many I enjoyed with the Eagles. Still don't know how we got the good seats.

skydog12
skydog12

@LHardingDawg 


Some of the best seats are reserved for the band, venue, promoters, ect. If they arn`t used, they sell them at the last minute.

thr2
thr2

I still remember buying the Desperado album after reading about in Rolling Stone and listening to layered lyrics mirroring outlaws - musicians, guns - guitars. Their lyrics weren't shallow and they put out 5 straight years of good albums back when singles and disco had begun to rule.

Peachs
Peachs

I heard he wrote that song after riding in his drug dealers car, going to fast.  He turned from the passenger side and said we got a ton of drugs in here why are you going so fast and the dealer's reply was, "life in the fast lane".

Bruno2
Bruno2

@Peachs The rest of the story, as I've heard, is that Frey carried the lyric with him for a short time, then Joe Walsh spontaneously came up with the riff while "noodling around" on his guitar one day in the studio.  The rest, as they say, is his-terical.

Bruno2
Bruno2

skydog: "Only Kief has out partied and out lived Jerry. Jerry was a junkie. Most people either quit after a while or die. I think Kief quit a while back."

Did Gregg Allman ever clean up??  Last I heard, he was "managing" his problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seFed8HURLg

skydog12
skydog12

@Bruno2 He has been clean for years, although I don`t think anybody makes him pee in a cup.

honested
honested

@Bruno2 @honested 

I never miss the opportunity (in case I find somebody with the tapes) because this was only a few months before the Allman Brothers with Cowboy and Marshall Tucker at the Municipal Auditorium as recorded by WREK. 

It would be nice to hear that.

Bruno2
Bruno2

@skydog12 @Bruno2 Last news I had was 7-8 years ago, before Gregg had a liver transplant.  Maybe that was a wake up call.

skydog12
skydog12

@Bruno2


"Whipping post never sounded crisper"


??? except for every other version without Jerry in it.


Jerry was a good guitar player, but he noodled a lot. He was not in the league of Dwane, Eric, Towson, or Walsh and many more.


I think Rolling Stone has a ranked list of top 100 guitar players. It is subjunctive, but Jerry is down the list from many others.


whipping post filmore east youtube

Bruno2
Bruno2

@skydog12 @Bruno2 I figured that would get a rise out of you.  You may not care for Jerry's style, but to downgrade his talent is foolish IMO.  The proof of the pudding is when someone else tries to imitate another guitarist.  Most recently, John Mayer has attempted to fill Jerry's shoes on the Dead and Company tour.  While he does a credible job in his own right, the difference in quality is immediately apparent to any hard-core Dead fan.

skydog12
skydog12

@Bruno2 @skydog12 


Who is the "best" is a subjective thang Bruno.

I do like Jerry`s style very much and I like his singing style also.

You would agree, I hope, I helps to be stoned to listen to Dead music. Some of it you HAVE to be high to get through a 19 min jam.

My influences are gospel, blues, soul, and psychedelic rock. I`m from Ga. so some country has rubbed off on me.

Another factor of "best" is parents, region of the world, and DNA.

Bruno2
Bruno2

PaulinNH:  Here's a track from Neil Young and the International Harvesters who played Chastain back in 1985.  They had an awesom lead guitarist who traded licks all night with Neil on such classics like "Down By the River".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ph2y3EYNI

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Bruno2 @PaulinNH   It really is a small world.   And with that, I am out.  Hopefully next week's FNM won't be in honor of a newly-deceased musical icon

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Bruno2   I just talked to my wife.  She went to high school in Birmingham, AL with one of the members of the International Harvesters - a guy named Anthony Crawford.  She told me that Anthony played a bunch of instruments but wasn't the lead - and that if you go to NeilYoung.com you should be able to find out.

Bruno2
Bruno2

@PaulinNH @Bruno2 Some really awesome guitar work going on in that performance.  Very cool that your wife knows the guy.  Small world.  I think we're down to two or three degrees of separation these days.

honested
honested

Of course back in the time the Eagles became large, there were so many forms of 'rock' and 'fusion'.

A living Eagle (Joe Walsh) left the band that made him famous and was replaced by a man who could have been an Eagle but became a Deep Purple, but was always best as himself.


Far too many great musicians that disappeared all too quickly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7FOTBdbPN8

Bruno2
Bruno2

PaulinNH: "Lennon was definitely the "most interesting Beatle".  I looked up Jerry's ToD."

If you ever have some free time, check out any interviews you can find with Jerry Garcia. He's even more interesting than Lennon, IMO, which is saying a lot.  One thing you could count on from Jerry was complete honesty.  Here's an example from an interview:

David: Do you feel sometimes at your shows that you're guiding people or taking people on a journey through those levels?

Jerry: In a way, but I don't feel like I'm guiding anybody. I feel like I'm sort of stumbling along and a lot of people are watching me or stumbling with me or allowing me to stumble for them. I don't feel like, here we are, I'm the guide and come one you guys, follow me. I do that, but I don't feel that I'm particularly better at it than anybody else.

For example, here's something that used to happen all the time. The band would check into a hotel. We'd get our room-key and then we'd go to the elevator. Well, a lot of times we didn't have a clue where the elevator was. So, what used to happen was that everybody would follow me, thinking that I would know. I'd be walking around thinking why the f@%# is everybody following me? (laughter) So, if nobody else does it, I'll start something - it's a knack.

David: A lot of people are looking for someone to follow.

Jerry: Yeah. I don't mind being that person, but it doesn't mean that I'm good at it or that I know where I'm going or anything else. It doesn't require competence, it only requires the gesture.

honested
honested

@Bruno2 

If Owlsley did his job, a gesture is all that is needed.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@skydog12 

Saw the Dead at their last show in Atlanta.

Worst. Concert. EVAH.

Jerry's playing was almost incoherent.

skydog12
skydog12

@Bruno2 @honested


Only Kief has out partied and out lived Jerry. Jerry was a junkie. Most people either quit after a while or die. I think Kief quit a while back. Not Jerry, he went out a junkie.


Good guitar player, better song writer (w/ Robt Hunter), but sadly he could not kick the demons. Like the interview above says, he didn`t want to be a leader and if you followed him you were real lost.

honested
honested

Focusing is hard because for some unknown reason WREK decided tonight's 'Classic Rock Album' would be the Monkees.

The Monkees, classic?


Anyway, Glen Frey and the whole band owed a debt to this man, along with everyone in the Dead, Buffalo Springfield and so many others! (not to mention the 'backup vocalist').


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk

Bruno2
Bruno2

@honested Musicians seemed to collaborate more back in the day.  For example, King Crimson, YES, Steely Dan and the Doobie Bros all shared common musicians at one time or another.  Jerry Garcia showed up in some interesting places, having a big part in the first Jefferson Starship album.

honested
honested

@Bruno2 @honested 

I have the vinyl.

But WHAT HAPPENED to the notion of collaboration and growing?

With the exception of charity events, the concept of cross pollination and enhancing the product seems to have been overcome by who can tilt their hat the farthest and display the most tattoos.


And as a salute to Buzz Aldrin from his article in Technology Review a couple of years ago "You promised me flying cars and all I got was Facebook".

Bruno2
Bruno2

@honested @Bruno2 I believe there's a fair amount of collaboration in the world of rap, that is when they're not shooting each other.  ; > }

honested
honested

@PaulinNH @honested @Bruno2 

Bernard Shakey never lost his appreciation of human beings and their creativity.

I hope he tours again while he is with us!

honested
honested

@Bruno2 @honested 

Yet, among the artists listed so far, who ever shot one another?

Heck, Sylvester Stewart and George Clinton were probably as chemically agitated as one can be but there wasn't any gunplay!!

Bruno2
Bruno2

Jay: "First Bowie, now this? I’m not liking how 2016 is playing out so far."

The two most memorable deaths in the world of music to me were when John Lennon was shot and when Jerry Garcia passed away.  In both cases, the spontaneous public recognition was overwhelming.  I've wondered a bit who else might inspire that level of recognition, and can only guess Elton John (possibly).

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Bruno2   I don't know the exact date Jerry passed away but without looking it up I can put down 12-8-80 for Lennon

Bruno2
Bruno2

@PaulinNH @Bruno2 If you don't remember the date Jerry passed, I'm sure you can guess the time of day. ; > }

I was watching Monday Night Football when Howard Cosell announced that Lennon had been shot.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Bruno2 @PaulinNH   I was watching MNF too.  I remember talking to my parents later that week back in Liverpool and they told me how the following day crowds had gathered for vigils in the city center - all in the pre-internet days when those things didn't get organized

Bruno2
Bruno2

@PaulinNH @Bruno2 I had just turned 20 a few months prior, so never had the benefit of an adult understanding of the Beatles while they were a big phenomenon.  Right after Lennon's death, however, they played a lengthy radio interview ( ~ 3 hours long) which allowed me to see him as simply a human being for the first time.


P.S. Jerry passed away at exactly 4:20 if you didn't know.  ; > }

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Bruno2   "I've wondered a bit who else might inspire that level of recognition"  McCartney, Bob and Neil also come to mind

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Bruno2 @PaulinNH   My wife will be in mourning for a month when Neil goes - he's her idol.  We saw him at Red Rocks in July - he still has it

Bruno2
Bruno2

@PaulinNH @Bruno2 One of my greatest concert experiences was meeting Neil in person following a show at Chastain in 1985.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Bruno2 @PaulinNH   I didn't realize Neil played Chastain back in 1985 - then again, that was my last year at GT and I was killing myself trying to finish up.

Bruno2
Bruno2

@PaulinNH @Bruno2 He was with a backup band called the International Harvesters.  Whoever the guitar player was, he was awesome.  I'll put up one of their tracks above.

YouLibs
YouLibs

@Bruno2 @PaulinNH


There were about six or eight kids who caught the school bus every morning at the corner of Woodbine Rd. and Washington Rd in Augusta. Thurmond's Grocery was on the corner and Mr. Thurmond would play the top 40 radio station to lure us in to spend money.


One bitterly cold morning in 1963 we were all escaping the cold outside when a song we had never heard before came on. Nobody said a word during or for a minute or two after "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" played.


A few months later came the Sullivan  appearance and within a year or two the top forty list at the Augusta Radio Company in National Hills shopping center had a big beetle in the place of the first ten songs.


I feel fortunate to have been thirteen when the Beatles exploded onto the American scene.