Oregon standoff finally coming to a head

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With one of their colleagues dead and much of their leadership captured, and with authorities cutting off escape routes, the boys out in Burns, Oregon are getting a mite panicky. I can’t post the video here — WARNING: it contains language not suitable for a family website — but here’s a portion of a live feed posted by the militia to YouTube.

As you can see, that excerpt doesn’t reflect well on the intelligence of those involved, nor does it bode well for a peaceful outcome. In addition to the hysterical rhetoric, it shows the remaining radicals using construction equipment to dig trenches and foxholes in anticipation of an assault by authorities. I doubt the assault will come soon; what we’re seeing at the moment is probably just an escalation in a long war of nerves. But it will have one of three outcomes: They will surrender, be arrested or die.

At a press conference today, the FBI special agent in charge noted that authorities had given the militia members more than ample time to leave and defuse the situation, but the opportunity had been repeatedly spurned. The time had finally come to take action.

Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward put it pointedly and poignantly, referring to the death of LaVoy Finicum:

“It didn’t have to happen. We all make choices in life. Sometimes our choices go bad.”

They’re particularly likely to go bad when you engage in grotesque self-romanticizing delusion about “Second Amendment” remedies and taking up arms against your country. And this won’t be the end of it. Militia wannabes around the country are already trying to turn Finicum into a martyr, claiming that he was shot down in cold blood. (An account by Ammon Bundy’s bodyguard contradicts that claim, acknowledging that Finicum rushed law enforcement rather than surrender.)

And down on his ranch outside Vegas, Cliven Bundy sits in a simmer over the fact that two of his sons are now in prison and likely to be there for awhile.

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C_Casselberry
C_Casselberry

Y'all Quada chumps are going to go spend eternity with their 72 virgin cousins.

N-GA-Online
N-GA-Online

I suppose some of these idiots will be hanging out for all eternity with some of those Muslim suicide bomb martyrs.

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

So what I wanna know  -  you see I'm really curious about this thing - is just how it is possible to have one of the nation's top two newspapers coming out today with a full on editorial against Bernie Sanders. 

I mean, if the mainstream media is left wing and Bernie Sanders is, as it seems, by far the furthest to the 'left' of any major candidate in the entire field this season, then how is it possible that this newspaper of record and mouthpiece of Beltway wisdom not only is not embracing Sanders but is busy attacking him? 

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Get's ya thinking dun't it? 


Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

@breckenridge @Donnie_Pinko 

In the tank for her?

I don't think that's it exactly.

I think they - and the elite for which they're a mouthpiece - would be reasonably comfortable with her representing their interests. But they would also be quite pleased with a generic Republican doing the same, such as Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio.

But Trump and Sanders are threatening to seriously disrupt the apple cart here.

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

The Washington Post doing its best to puncture the Bernie Sanders balloon before things get out of hand. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanderss-fiction-filled-campaign/2016/01/27/cd1b2866-c478-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-e:homepage/story

Note the defensive tone: 

Mr. Sanders’s tale starts with the bad guys: Wall Street and corporate money. The existence of large banks and lax campaign finance laws explains why working Americans are not thriving, he says, and why the progressive agenda has not advanced. Here is a reality check: Wall Street has already undergone a round of reform, significantly reducing the risks big banks pose to the financial system. The evolution and structure of the world economy, not mere corporate deck-stacking, explained many of the big economic challenges the country still faces. And even with radical campaign finance reform, many Americans and their representatives would still oppose the Sanders agenda.

goat diddler
goat diddler

I dont even have to click that link to drool.. although personally I was more a fan of the 428 Super Cobra Jet with a true shaker hood scoop...

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

@OldEngineer 

Desperately seeking attention.   // 

This seems to be a popular meme on blogs such as these, the notion that people who go against the current are simply seeking attention. And of course there may be some truth to it - I don't deny it really. 

But to reduce it to that alone seems to be a bit over-simplistic and reductive.

breckenridge
breckenridge

What has been overlooked in the dust-up between Megyn Kelly and Donald Trump is the fact that Kelly is a radical anti-choice activist who promotes the radical extremist anti-choice agenda at every turn. 

She is no heroine, she is not deserving of any sympathy.

Peachs
Peachs

@breckenridge I think she and Trump have a secret pack, to rev up the polls ratings for both of them, it is as fake as wrestling. 

breckenridge
breckenridge

@Peachs @breckenridge 

Trump? He'd be hiding foreign objects in his elbow pad.  And everybody in the arena would know it except the referee.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

 But you really got to wonder about people that tell just plain stupid lies just to tell them. 


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Reminds me a bunch of a bunch of trolls who spend a bunch of time whining a bunch in these parts.

KUTGF
KUTGF

Some chant "fry like bacon" and our RWers go nuts for weeks....  Militia with guns who actually say "If anyone tries to stop you, kill them" they just act like its nothing. 

honested
honested

@KUTGF 

Let them put some insured property at risk and see how fast the calculus changes!

KUTGF
KUTGF

@honested @KUTGF The armed militia first seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon on January 2, and proclaimed early on that they were willing to kill and be killed if necessary. Since then, their occupation of the land, and their refusal to seriously negotiate with the FBI, has cost the U.S. government over $133,000 per day.
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Its no looted CVS well unless you add up all the days. 

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

Yep, it's one of those days when a real giddiness on the Bookman blog is palpable.

Peachs
Peachs

@OldEngineer @Donnie_Pinko OE the one thing all these nuts have in common is they are never happy and that is the vision they have for our country, man I can't wait to be unhappy..

ByteMe
ByteMe

@Donnie_Pinko You whine a lot about the venue for someone who comes here so often.

ByteMe
ByteMe

 David Fry, an Ohio man who became the designated videographer for the makeshift militia occupying the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, says he won't leave even after one member of the group was killed in a confrontation with law enforcement and nearly a dozen others were arrested.

In a Wednesday interview with Oregon Public Broadcasting, Fry said "we have new leaders now and new plans.”

In another interview with the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Fry said he still was prepared to lay down his life.

"I'll pass on and move on to the next life. I don't know (how it will end), but I'm willing to go that far,'' Fry said, as quoted by the newspaper. "Obviously they are murdering people at this point. They've been doing it for a long time now, and you guys are watching it.''

Those who cannot remember the recent past are condemned to repeat it shortly.

honested
honested

@ByteMe 

Don't they have a game warden that can dart these guys and then rustle up an old circus wagon cage to put them on display for a day or two in town so the locals can heave tomatoes at them?

CommonSenseisntCommon
CommonSenseisntCommon

@honested @ByteMe Oregon taxpayers are going to be pissed about the cleanup bill :-)

They may have to even go so far as to raise the fishing license fees which will piss Jay off even more LOL