Gov. Deal makes the right decision, citing the right reasons

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Supporters of a so-called “religious liberty” bill demonstrate at a rally at the state Capitol in Atlanta. BRANT SANDERLIN / BSANDERLIN@AJC.COM

Gov. Nathan Deal has announced a veto of House Bill 757, the so-called “religious liberty” bill, and he cited all the right reasons for doing so.

As he noted, the isolated “horror stories” about alleged infringement of religious liberty that have been told to justify passage of the bill have all occurred in other states, and given existing Georgia law they are highly unlikely to occur here. No preacher is going to be forced to marry gay people in contradiction of his or her faith. No bakery is going to be forced by state law to sell a wedding cake to a gay couple. There is simply no mechanism here by which such things could happen.

That’s because, as Deal pointed out, Georgia has no law on the books that protects people from discrimination based on sexual orientation. Without such a state law, there is no rationale for passing a religious-based exemption to such a law. Doing so anyway is basically a gratuitous insult, not a response to a problem.

Furthermore, given the strong provisions of the First Amendment at the federal level that have protected people of faith for more than 200 years, state-level legislation seeking to protect religious liberty is more likely to cause mischief than to solve problems.

According to Deal, threats of economic boycotts against the state played no role in his decision.  Maybe that’s true; maybe it isn’t. At the very least, such threats focused official attention on the issue to a degree that might not otherwise have existed.  But taking Deal at his word, he said instead that he is vetoing HB 757 because by enabling discrimination against a particular group of people, it contradicts what is best about Georgia:

“This is about the character of our state and the character of its people. Georgia is a welcoming state filled with warm, friendly and loving people. Our cities and countryside are populated with people who worship God in a myriad of ways and in very diverse settings. Our people work side by side without regard to the color of our skin, or the religion we adhere to. We are working to make life better for our families and our communities. That is the character of Georgia. I intend to do my part to keep it that way.”

Thank you, governor. You did the right thing for Georgia. And while supporters of HB 757 are already talking of forcing a special legislative session to override Deal’s veto, that’s pure posturing and venting. There is no way on earth that Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle and House Speaker David Ralston will allow that kind of spectacle. It would be ruinous to their party and to their state, and in Cagle’s case ruinous to his own political ambitions.

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Trish Moore
Trish Moore

People are acting as if homosexuality is brand new. People have been doing business with gays for centuries. So why stop now? And why does it always have to be white republicans behaving in this manner? And southern on top of that. This is embarrassing. STOP DISCRIMINATING!

Michael Barnes
Michael Barnes

He can't win. If he signed it he is demonized, since he didn't now his motives are questioned.

Bob Bruce
Bob Bruce

of course, you and the gay administration in little San Fransisco think so.Go marchin the parade with your brothers and sisters in the gay community.

The Doom
The Doom

The latest example of "white Christian terrorism".


Yep. A 66 year old black man, armed with a pellet gun, who proclaims himself a "prophet of God".


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@Doom Classical liberal How many innocent Muslims do you think we have killed in the ME the last 15 years


Would you say more or less than Muslims have killed here ?

JayBook
JayBook moderator

clean, unsullied sheets upstairs.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@JayBook It's only unsillied (intentional sic) temporarily.

The Doom
The Doom

@ByteMe @JayBook


No doubt. It won't take long before someone makes up some crap about non existent waves of "white Christian terrorism". 

RantNRave
RantNRave

Governor Scott "The Loser" Walker



endorses Ted "Cray Cray" Cruz.



Losers UNITE !

Derrick West
Derrick West

The irony about this whole thing is deal may have vetoed this bill. But the Georgia house and senate are about to override his veto. Lol so I wouldn't celebrate like it's over.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

 There were 4 or 5 progs last night trying to portray a man with obvious mental problems as a Christian terrorist. 


Funny how when its a Christian its always mental problems huh ?


But when its a Muslim ( whom i'm sure other muslims would consider off balance ) some go so far as to think they represent all Muslims.


See how that works ?

ByteMe
ByteMe

@Hedley_Lammar Yep.  I'm one of those "progs" trying to force some empathy on those who clearly have no self-awareness.

The Doom
The Doom

@Hedley_Lammar


Aaaah. So a 66 year old man, armed with a freaking pellet gun, who a year ago was proclaiming himself "a prophet of God", is equivalent to organized Muslim terrorists inflicting incredible damage. 


I'm floored by just how ridiculous you people sound today. 

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@Hedley_Lammar

Well see, if we were just going to use that blanket / shorthand "Christian Terrorist" term whenever it suited us, it's make us seem like we thought Christians were somehow hard-wired to commit violence. I'm pretty sure we don't want to give that impression to Christians lest it become some kind of self-fulfillubg prophecy.

ByteMe
ByteMe

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — The governor signed a bill Monday that makes Utah the first state to require doctors to give anesthesia to women having an abortion at 20 weeks of pregnancy or later.

The bill signed by Republican Gov. Gary Herbert is based on the disputed premise that a fetus can feel pain at that point.

Keeping SCOTUS busy, one stupid law at a time.

The Doom
The Doom

"We have a worse problem with radical Christian terrorism in this country as well as radical White Man terrorism, but we're not allowed to round them up and deport them. "- Byteme


Possibly the all time dumbest statement ever made on this blog. And that's saying something. 


So tell me, Byteme, how many Americans have died of late from "Christian terrorism". I can think of Tim McVeigh's horrific bombing back in 1992- nearly a quarter of a century ago. Since then you might find one or 2 people killed here and there at a time- abortion docs, Eric Rudolph. And that's about it. 


You want to compare that with the Ft. Hood Massacre, 9/11, San Bernadino, Boston marathon, and on and on?


And for their next trick the progs will scream about the Bundys(nobody killed by the Bundys) and an array of crazy people who killed not in the name of Christian terrorism but because they were just plain crazy. Won't stop the progs from dishonestly trying to claim it was done in the name of  Christianity. Last night proved that. 


Dumber than a box of rocks. 

ByteMe
ByteMe

@Doom Classical liberal Awwww.  You're feeling bad because you're a white christian man and can't stand being treated like you treat Muslims?

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@Doom Classical liberal I can think of Tim McVeigh's horrific bombing back in 1992- nearly a quarter of a century ago. Since then you might find one or 2 people killed here and there at a time- abortion docs, Eric Rudolph. And that's about it. 


You want to compare that with the Ft. Hood Massacre, 9/11, San Bernadino, Boston marathon, and on and on?


I would compare them. For the most part they were all religious fanatics.

The Doom
The Doom

@ByteMe @Doom Classical liberal


Dude, just admit it. Your statement was beyond stupid. White Christian terrorism in this country is not a problem. If it were you would be able to rattle off numerous right wing bombings and terrorist attacks of late that took out numerous numbers of people at a time. But you can't. And we both know it. 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@Doom Classical liberal @ByteMe White Christian terrorism in this country is not a problem.


Neither is Islamic terrorism. You are more likely to die from a lightning strike. You can get out from under your bed now.


They obviously have you terrorized. 


Keep calm and carry on dude.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@Doom Classical liberalOf course it's not a problem just because you say it's not a problem.  Any Muslims among the folks who took over the center in Oregon?  How about Buddhists?  No?

Christian terrorists!


It's EXACTLY how you are painting Muslims with a broad brush.  Get some empathy.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@JamVet Because the electorate looks just like it did 35 years ago.  Uh huh.

JamVet
JamVet

@ByteMe @JamVet

One of the kids here is convinced it is how The Trog is going to pull that inside straight!

honested
honested

@JamVet 

'ray-gun democrats' happened once or twice, then they became reliable republiklans. 

It took them a while to realize they had been duped. 

The ones that are still alive are already chump voters and don't yet realize the snake oil chump is selling won't work any better than 'supply side'.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@JamVet the notion is a misnomer.

True Dems pull the Dem lever no matter what as is the same for true Repubs.

The so-called Reagan Democrats were mostly the fickle undecided with a few converts.

While there are wide spread reports of blue collar voters abandoning the Dems, the swell of support on the Right is from the fickle, a few Dem deserters, and people who have not routinely voted.

Regardless and no matter what Lap Media says, there is a ton more enthusiasm on the Right. 

honested
honested

@JohnnyReb @JamVet 

'a ton more enthusiasm on the wrong'.......

Until chump is the nominee and then the 'enthusiasm' will be the broad majority able to comprehend the damage that would be done by a chump Presidency voting their own best interest.

Sometimes you have to put people in clear and present danger for them to realize the stakes.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@honested @JohnnyReb @JamVet anyone aligned with the Left gave up any right to complain of others wanting their best interest.

The Left, Dems, Liberals, whatever handle you decide, is the biggest bunch of spoiled, I want mine, babies the world has seen.

JamVet
JamVet

@JohnnyReb @JamVet

Listen or don't.

But you trogs need to prepare yourselves for a third straight unmerciful beat down this November...

honested
honested

@JohnnyReb @honested @JamVet 

I guess you will be angry when chump is soundly defeated.

And I guess you will be angry at all the Americans who can see what a terrible situation he would put the Country in.

SFM_Scootter
SFM_Scootter

@Visual_Cortex I try to look at most of the links provided here but believe I'll take pass on nekid pictures. LOL

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@Visual_Cortex we face an enemy that cuts off people's heads, or puts large numbers in a metal cage and lowers it in water to drown them, or lines them up and shoots them in the back of the head.

Yet you chose to belittle our leaders and country for water boarding, what was it two or three detainees.

You need a reality check.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@JohnnyReb @Visual_Cortex

water boarding, what was it two or three detainees.

You need to learn about what's actually been done to prisoners ever since the country went bonkers after 9/11.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@Visual_Cortex @JohnnyReb for you Cortex and any other limp wrist, just hug everyone and it will be OK thinkers, if you had a loved one about to die to had the guy who could stop it in your control, there is no end to what you would do.

You need to realize that, face it, and stop whining about what we did or did not do to a bunch of animals who want to kill you, all you love, and your nation.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@JohnnyReb because we want to be just like them!  That's the winning ticket.  Fer sure.  Really.