Hillary Clinton and the alleged ‘woman card’

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“The only card she has is the woman’s card,” a dismissive Donald Trump said last week. “And frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don’t think she’d get 5 percent of the vote.”

While his comments drew harsh reactions from some quarters, Trump was not dissuaded, and in fact continued his line of gender attack in an appearance this weekend on Fox News.

“The only card she has is the woman card,” Trump told Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday. “Even women don’t like her. If she were not a woman, she would not even be in this race.”

I have to say, that’s an interesting theory. But I do have a few questions:

If being a woman is such an advantage in politics, if this “woman card” is as powerful as Trump claims, why have we had an unbroken string of 43 men and no women elected to the White House? Is it some bizarre coincidence? Is it testament to the genius and hard work of those 43 men that they each found ways to overcome the terrible handicap of being a man in a world where women hold the dreaded “woman card”?

And if this “woman card” has such power, how is it that the 100-member U.S. Senate has just 20 female members, and that 20 represents the highest total in history? How is it that here in Georgia, where we elect 16 people to represent us in Washington, exactly zero of those two senators and 14 congressmen is a woman? Why is it that none of Georgia’s eight constitutional officers, from governor to labor commissioner, is held by a woman, and that none of the five public service commissioners is female? Add it up, and the 29 top elected posts in the state are all held by men.

That would suggest the existence of a “man card” far more powerful in politics than any “woman card” might be. So it’s interesting to wonder why Trump and many of his followers would perceive the situation so differently, and would think themselves to be the ones at a disadvantage.

As you may recall, though, a similar dynamic played out in 2008 and 2012. The complaint back then was that Barack Obama was deploying the politically powerful “race card” — you know, the same “race card” that had proved so powerful for all the other black presidents who had preceded Obama, giving them unfair advantages over their white competitors.

“If Obama were white, he’d be down by 20,” a frustrated Rush Limbaugh ranted in September 2012. “If Obama was white, this election would be over. If Obama was white, it wouldn’t be a contest.” In short, the poor downtrodden white man just didn’t have a fair chance in a world where the black man held all the cards.

I know I know. It’s nuts. But that’s their world view nonetheless. People who have always enjoyed a position of unspoken superiority often have a hard time recognizing it as such. And as we’re witnessing, when that favored position begins to erode, when racial and gender rules evolve and they’re forced to live in a world more closely approximating equality, they experience such change as loss, and they resent it.

 

 

 

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Lou Harrisn
Lou Harrisn

She is hoping women will be dumb enough to fall for it, just as the Blacks are on the Black card. Maybe our founding Fathers were correct, women should not vote, they vote with emotions and not brains. Blacks will vote for her even though the Democratic Party has failed them , even with a Black President. Some just never learn

TomGaff
TomGaff

I just read where Megan Kelly will be interviewing Donald Trump very soon. She always asks tough questions but is respectful most of the time. Ok Hillary, grow a pair, and consent to be interviewed by Megan also. But she seems to run away from a decent interview, why?

Spinoza
Spinoza

Drumpf is in store for a sound defeat in November.  George Will is right the best thing that can happen for the GOP at this point is to distance themselves as much as possible from Drumpf, hope for a 50 state sweep by Clinton, and then focus on the senate in the meantime and the 2020 presidential primaries later.

TomGaff
TomGaff

@Spinoza You do know that Hillary brings a lot of baggage with her?

BigBillBounceback
BigBillBounceback

@Spinoza 
You do know the latest polls have Trump ahead nationally against the criminal, right?
And that's before she's indicted and health insurance premiums triple in August.. keep dreaming, lefty.


St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

Is Indiana today? Last o the Mohicans for Cruz and 

Fioioioioiriroiroinna (i can't spell those italian names, they all look alike to me)

KUTGF
KUTGF

@foo2u Some rather disturbing comments posted.  But I am sure that some will not see "evidence" of racism. 

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@Kamchak 

But isn't this "woman card" cancelled by menopause? And how old is HC?

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

Take "alleged" out of the title.  That is, if you want to make the title correct. 

breckenridge
breckenridge

Trump is going to make America grate again!

TBS
TBS

The “white working classes” that are said to form the core of Mr. Trump’s support deserve better than to be patronized with references to their “anger.” They deserve to hear an argument about the disaster they are about to impose on their party, their country and their own economic interests.

A Trump nomination will not destroy the GOP, any more than George McGovern’s nomination destroyed the Democrats. But it all but guarantees another Clinton presidency. How should that make you feel? Note the Kundera punchline atop this column.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-gop-gets-what-it-deserves-1462231897

TBS
TBS

The author of that article doesn't seem too upbeat on a Trump victory.

modcon
modcon

@TBS I don't know of any GOP candidate this cycle that would beat Hillary.  Trump is the worst of them, I agree.

St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

@KUTGF @TBS I like that plan. bubba and i have a lot, a lot in common. just not the social stuff, that's messed up. but we can de-nazify them in Obama's FEMA camps

TBS
TBS

I didn't have to sign in and I'm not a subscriber to WSJ.

I tend to agree with the author's point about Trump not destroying GOP. I know Jay has implied that as well but I don't agree.

They will make changes and then we will see what happens. Same for the Dems

Until there are third party candidates consistently vying for POTUS and other national offices I personally don't see it.

CommonSenseisntCommon
CommonSenseisntCommon

@TBS until the RNC is willing to make changes to it's basic philosophy it will continue to lose national elections IMO. That continues to screw up the HORS and Senate for the foreseeable future.

St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

@TBS  "They deserve to hear an argument about the disaster they are about to impose on.......their own economic interests."

Oh sneaky attempt at a 'turn-around' there WS-Fox-Murdoch-Journal. Let me tell you, bubba GOT that memo, it's in his Inbox. That's why your trickle down pahhty is trickling down the toilet bowl, and not soon enough.

KUTGF
KUTGF

@TBS Have to subscribe or sign in to read the article.  I would suggest that the Trump supporters I have talked with want to destroy the GOP elite and Washington.  They have no plan for what follows. 

TBS
TBS

True but they do hold many elected offices

They seem to have ignored their own autopsy after 2012

I could be wrong but I see them sustaining a few more losses for POTUS and losing some of the seats they won over the last several elections before any type of implosion takes place.

Viable third party candidates will shake up both of them but until then they will keep making cosmetic changes and hope the other party's candidates are worse in any given election

Spinoza
Spinoza

@TBS I don't see the Kundera punchline but I do see a massive defeat for the GOP this November.  And it is richly deserved.

Spinoza
Spinoza

@TBS The GOP does well in the House largely because of the gerrymanders.  That is also the case to a lesser extent in individual states. 


I do think they will return.  I recall the same talk in 1964 when Goldwater experienced the worst popular vote loss in history and they won in 1968.  And the same thing after Watergate and the resignation of both the president and v.p.  And they won a landslide in 1980.  But the GOP has become the victim of its own poison, their negative campaigns, smears, and hate, and their far right ideology.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@Spinoza @TBS Democrats gerrymander just as much.  Its just that they tend to live in huge segregated (from Republicans) clumps in cities.

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

So with the Bernie Sanders campaign now set to wind down, it's apparently time to roll out the faux thanks to the Sanders's campaign for the "great service" it has done for the Democratic Party. Even the Grey Lady has to acknowledge - without of course saying it outright - the sharp move to the right by the Democratic Party over the years. (Notice by the way the title "gift to HIS party").

Bernie Sanders’s Gift to His Party

The Democratic Party and Mrs. Clinton are better off for Mr. Sanders’s presence in this race. His criticism, as Winston Churchill might say, was not agreeable. But it called necessary attention to unhealthy developments in the Democratic Party, including its at-times obliviousness to the lingering economic pain of the middle class and the young, and its drift toward political caution over aspiration.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/03/opinion/bernie-sanderss-gift-to-his-party.html

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@Donnie_Pinko 

I would say that the Democratic Party has made a "sharp move" to the center, from the liberal-left of earlier decades...though I personally really prefer that earlier position.

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

All Trump has is the "rich white man with little hands" card.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

 With that in mind, how many votes do you think are swayed by lying disinformation trolls on blogs? 


We don't censor in America. My opinion is. If someone wants to show you just how big of an idiot they are. Let em. And believe them when they say the crazy stuff they do.


One of my favorite examples is the story of a man who had Zyklon B on his license plate in VA. This is the chemical the Nazis used to exterminate Jews.


Now some were offended and he was forced to remove it. But I wouldn't go that route. 


Dont make the bigots put on a veil. They are harder to spot that way. 

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@Hedley_Lammar so tell us great bigot spotter, what is your criteria for labeling someone a bigot?

St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

@Hedley_Lammar agreed. And in our outdated tradition, paint your faces, same thing. 

But like fire ants, roaches, and lice - do we have an obligation to fumigate, spray it with some DDT, or just let it bask out in the open? i'm open-minded, haven't decided yet.

KUTGF
KUTGF

@St Simons he-ne-ha @JohnnyReb @Hedley_Lammar The 1st Amendment is a messy thing but our RWers always whine about free speech for them when they have it....what they want is not to have to address the responsibilities and the consequences of their speech. 

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@JohnnyReb @Hedley_Lammar You know someone is a bigot if they call themselves a progressive instead of a liberal.  That means they hate southerners, conservatives and conservative Christians.

modcon
modcon

@TBS No, they didn't list faith as one of the areas that should be protected and then went on to downplay the importance of faith with their jab at the end.


I was just curious if they included faith in their list of protection.  That's all.

Menace
Menace

@modcon @TBS  The jab was intended.  You have the right to worship as you please.  You do not have the right to deny someone else their rights because you don't like thier lifestyle.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@Visual_Cortex @JohnnyReb @Hedley_Lammar no fisherman, I did not and am not stating that.

States that offer vanity plates have identified those they won't issue.  Someone missed that one.

My point is and was, just because you don't agree with someone does not necessarily make him/her a bigot, but that has become the measure of too many on the Left.

In my opinion, a bigot has to repeatedly demonstrate an intolerance for a race or class with no believable evidence to support the prejudice.

Herein lies the rub because what you might consider no evidence can be quite the contrary to someone else.

modcon
modcon

@Menace @modcon @TBS @Menace @modcon @TBS

I"m OK with the jab.  You are entitled to believe what you wish.


 I'm asking do you believe faith should be a protected right?  Are you ok with anyone being denied their rights based on their faith, which is a lifestyle, by the way.  Just curious who you want to protect and who you don't care about protecting.

TBS
TBS

You have been discriminated against because of your faith?

Menace
Menace

@JohnnyReb @Hedley_Lammar  Someone who deny people their contstituonal rights based upon race, sex, orientation, etc.  And hide behind an outdated publication written by MEN (who think they were inspired by God) many years ago.

Menace
Menace

@modcon @Menace @TBS  You have the right to practice your faith as you see fit.  However, that ends when your faith causes you to deny the rights of others.

modcon
modcon

@CommonSenseisntCommon @modcon @Menace @TBS I didn't say anything about it.


I was asking him to clarify his position based on an earlier comment he made.


I haven't made a claim that I have been persecuted or that my rights have been violated.

modcon
modcon

@Menace @modcon @TBS In that case, do other's rights end when their lifestyle cause my rights to be violated?

TBS
TBS

And you can cite stats to back up your stupidity?

Thought so

Next

FYI: your comment came across as someone who would know a bigot by looking in the mirror

But do with that advice whatever you will

Peace

Menace
Menace

@modcon @Menace @TBS  I sort of look at it in teh context of the doofus walking around the airport carrying an AR-15.  It goes against everything I believe, but, I have to respect his right because it's the law.

modcon
modcon

@Menace @modcon @TBS Someone carrying a gun around, while at times socially awkward, is not denying you a basic right, so it's not the same thing.

Menace
Menace

@modcon @Menace @TBS  In this case your rights aren't being violated.  You may not agree with the actions, but, no one is denying your right to believe.

modcon
modcon

@Menace @modcon @TBS Faith isn't just believing, it's action.  Faith, to be real, must be lived out.


If someone is transgender, it's not the belief our society wants to protect, it's the actions behind the belief.


Faith is no different.

CommonSenseisntCommon
CommonSenseisntCommon

@modcon @Menace @TBS It does if his sense of protection or his childrens are being violated it is the same as walking down the street and seeing armed men coming toward you.

Menace
Menace

@modcon @CommonSenseisntCommon @Menace @TBS  Ok one more try and we'll ahve to agree to disagree.  In the case of the clerk in KY.  She certainly has the right to believe the way she does - same sex amrraige is wrong.  What she doesn't have is the right to deny same sex applicants thier rights.  Her beliefs may not be the same but that doesn't give her the right to deny others.

TomGaff
TomGaff

@JohnnyReb @St Simons he-ne-ha @Hedley_Lammar A 70 yr old man struck a glancing blow on the 25 yr old protestor, wow! The kid probably did not even feel it. I guess that makes up for all the illegals and their friends in California waving a Mexican flag and causing damage and injuries at Trump speaking forums? Open the borders and let anyone come in who wants too! You DEMS get your taxes raised to support that, okay?

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@TBS Just look at the posts by "progressives" with bigoted, condescending comments against southerners, conservatives and conservative Christians.  More bigoted than anyone on the right.  Just different targets and without the least bit of guilt.