Dallas is what a ‘2nd Amendment remedy’ would look like

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Here’s what Ben Carson had to say Friday on Fox News:

“Now is definitely not the time to get political. Now is the time to use logic and ask ourselves, why do we have a Constitution? Why do we have a Second Amendment? They’re always saying you don’t need a high-powered weapon to hunt deer. The Constitution is not about deer hunting. It’s about people being able to defend themselves from an overly aggressive government or an external invasion.”

I’d like to make a few points about that, using the logic that Carson asks us to apply to such situations.

1.) No, the Second Amendment is NOT about people being able to “defend themselves from an overly aggressive government,” as Carson puts it. No federal court has ever interpreted it that way, which is why it is perfectly constitutional for the government to ban or heavily regulate ownership of fully automatic weapons, bombs, tanks, mines, bazookas, missiles or other military-quality devices that would be required to overthrow the government of the United States of America. You do NOT have a Second Amendment right to violently overthrow the government, nor do you have the right to kill government employees in the pursuit of that overthrow. Any suggestion otherwise is irresponsible.

2.) However, I’m pretty sure that Micah Johnson, the suspected gunman in the Dallas shootings, saw himself in exactly the terms described by Carson, defending himself and others like him “from an overly aggressive government.” He saw white police officers as the agents of that overly aggressive government, and he acted out in real life the type of anti-government fantasy that Carson and others like to indulge themselves in.

3.) I’m not by any means suggesting that Johnson was motivated by the romanticized Second Amendment nonsense spread by Carson and others. He clearly had a very different agenda. However, what we saw Thursday night in Dallas is exactly what “Second Amendment remedies” would look like, and as Carson indicates, he is horrified when he sees it in real life. And if you repeatedly tell people that they have the right to such remedies as a means to settle their grievances, if you tell them that the Constitution envisions and justifies them doing so, and if you give them the means to do so, then you trod very dangerous ground.

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skruorangeclown
skruorangeclown

Johnson, the dead sniper was radicalized by New Black Panther Party that believes in second amendment rights  and advocates killing police and white folks.. After their success in Dallas killing 5 white police officers, the NBPP is headed to Cleveland and will be protest the RNC while being fully armed.


See:  http://nypost.com/2016/07/12/new-black-panther-party-will-be-armed-during-rnc-protests/



RW protesters also intend to be armed. Ohio thanks to NRA and GOP is an open carry state. I am sure we will see some "well regulated militias" defending the cons from government tyranny .

NRA will be so proud.

St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

Evan Bayh is in (D-Indiana)

What was a sure red seat is now a tossup


FIGMO2
FIGMO2

When given the opportunity to speak on camera, have any of the BLM STREET protesters mentioned "Campaign Zero"?

http://tinyurl.com/z2ykng3

No! They choose to remain uninformed.

Will Black Lives Matter Be a Movement That Persuades?

Shutting down a college newspaper is no way to persuade critics.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/will-black-lives-matter-be-a-movement-that-persuades/407017/

Neither is shutting down roads and impeding traffic, bad mouthing law enforcement and seeking to inflict harm upon them.

Too many of the protesters remain clueless. 

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

I see we have some of the usual "but Chicago" posts. 

Question: Apart from having a murder rate much higher than Chicago, what do Jackson MS, Baton Rouge LA, Dayton OH, South Bend IN and Kansas City KS have in common? 

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

No answers from the RWers on the blog?  A hint - they all have Congressmen with one thing in common.

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

@PaulinNH 

I think maybe some of the RWers here secretly suffer from Jay withdrawal too. 

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

I commend them for it," said Lt. Bob Kroll, president of the Minneapolis Police Federation, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

EDITOR'S PICKS

Lynx, Liberty speak out against shootings, tragedies

Calling for healing, compassion and dialogue, players from the Lynx and Liberty donned shirts over the weekend honoring Philando Castile, Alton Sterling and the fallen Dallas police officers.

Lynx acknowledge shooting victims with shirts

The phrase "Change starts with us -- Justice & Accountability" appears on the front of the shirts, while the back honors Philando Castile, Alton Sterling and the Dallas Police Department.

The black warm-up shirts said, "Change starts with us. Justice and accountability" on the front. (Accountability is a Lynx team mantra.) The back of the shirts featured the names of Castile and Sterling, the Dallas Police Department shield and, at the bottom, "Black Lives Matter.

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

Four off-duty Minneapolis police officers who were working security for Saturday's Lynx game elected to leave their posts at Target Center in response to the players' stance.

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

The actions of these officers arw very telling.the shirts included the Dallas police department but the,officers still walked out. I feel sorry for the next people they pull over during a traffic stop

skydog12
skydog12

@BuckeyeGa


Screw the blue line, the whole world is watching. Change or get a new line of work.

skydog12
skydog12

I posted this last week.


There is a study that shows that white people are more intimidated by black men on the street, rather than white, Mexican, or Asian men.

The study also shows that black people are also more intimidated by black men rather than other groups of men.


It said these perceptions of black men are in our sub-conscience. 

That`s our SUB-conscience.


It is human nature when we see a Muslim dressed in their             traditional dress, to go oh, a Muslim. Then some of us think, no problem they just don`t look like I do. Move on.


But with black men, all our sub-conscienes say, black man, danger.

We have no control over our sub-conscience.

This may explain some of the quick draw attitudes cops have regarding black men?



DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

@skydog12 “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
Jesse Jackson I guess this makes Jesse a racist?

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

From the MYODB file:

"The United Nations has invited a Black Lives Matter activist to participate in a high-level debate in New York on human rights, with a particular focus on “combatting discrimination and inequalities.”"

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

UN doesn't give a rip about those things in the ME and elsewhere.

Why pick on us?

TBS
TBS

Victim much or just while blogging?

Pick on us...

Lol!!!!!

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@TBS  You'd never see the US applying their laws in other countries.  //sarc

Paul42
Paul42

@Nick_Danger

Out of all the opinions he's expressed, that is certainly one of them.

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

So the Bernie Sanders smoke and mirrors show reaches its conclusion today.

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

I wouldn't call it smoke and mirror but he finally realized he can't win

skydog12
skydog12

@BuckeyeGa


Bernie knew he was not going to win from the start. I do appreciate him doing so well and getting some of the things I care about added to the Dem platform.

TBS
TBS

She could be fearing that the end is near

Paul42
Paul42

@DownInAlbany

Well, I'm glad Chaffetz finally got it right in the relationship between Congress and the FBI in opening investigations Congress wants.  Amazing he didn't know the procedures.  Took him long enough.

Any idea why he didn't ask for an investigation of Rep Trey Gowdy for revealing classified information to unauthorized people?

Paul42
Paul42

@DownInAlbany

The answer, of course, is this is all about politics and 'getting' Hillary, as Republicans know the outcome if they leave it up to the voters.


St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

Cops (the cop profession) must change or die, because Americans have had it ...

the wisdom of musicians. this is why every culture has the saying 'art(ist) imitates life.'

what is simply an observation to us, is an epiphany to the culture at large.

You can substitute the word 'Cops' in that sentence with 'trickle-downers,' 'climate change deniers,' 'socio-economic darwinists,' 'religious freaks,' 'sociopaths,' 'racists,' and about 20 more terms. How do we see the Future? I don't know, but we do. You can listen & heed, or not. But we told you, we warned you. 

RandroidWillBoy
RandroidWillBoy

I was hanging out in my echo chamber considering a pivot to change the narrative but got Grubbered so put forth false comparisons in order to play sandbox grenade with the other dumb party acolytes.   Then the videos made everything worse and I realized all GOP are racists, liberals are educated phonies, people are trying to exterminate black men and Hitler's are all around us wanting a totalitarian regime because they are afraid of the coming of Starnesville.


Then I went to the polls to pull a lever...

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

Most all of our problems as a country can be traced to Liberal policies. 

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After 35 years of right wing resurgence, the scourge of problems inflicting us is a left wing thing. 

You read that right.

 

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

I'm beginning to think the whole LibProg population has been brainwashed.

It seems all they can do is point fingers at the Right instead of looking in the mirror.

Most all of our problems as a country can be traced to Liberal policies. 

rimsky
rimsky

@JohnnyReb We are not liberal enough or progressive enough.

House and Senate are deep conservative and so is the SCOTUS.  Executive Branch is not a lib and slightly progressive.

You been brain washed by FOX for too long.

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

@jr,

You're an example of the very thing you're complaining about lolol

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

@Jr,

You said all liberals can do is point fingers instead of looking into a mirror then you proceed to point fingers..according to your definition you must be a liberal.

Paul42
Paul42

@JohnnyReb

Why look in the mirror?  We have you and other cons to tell us what we really think.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@BuckeyeGa typical LibProg deflection.

Cant' take and face up to criticism.

It's always someone else's fault.

Paul42
Paul42

@Jefferson1776

How much thinking could a conservative think if a conservative could think to think?

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@Paul42 @JohnnyReb quite to the contrary.

We don't know what you think other than what you write.

We do know based on what you write that somewhere along the way you got lost.

Paul42
Paul42

@JohnnyReb

When has the Democratic Party said they want to confiscate all guns and repeal the second amendment?

When has President Obama said he wants equal outcomes for everybody?

Shall I continue?