Democrats aren’t nearly as divided … I think

In comments to supporters who were booing his plea to back Hillary Clinton for president, Bernie Sanders tried to put the situation into mature perspective.

“Brothers and sisters,” he said to the crowd this morning, trying to calm them, “this is the real world we live in.”

Some of his supporters, at least in that room, would prefer not to live in that world.  They would prefer not to consider the consequences of decisions that might lead to the election of Donald Trump, as if that is somebody else’s responsibility. They could not be more wrong.

In the 2000 election, you may recall, some people justified their support for third-party candidate Ralph Nader by arguing that in the end, it wouldn’t matter whether Al Gore or George W. Bush won the presidential election, that what mattered was making a statement.  Bush’s subsequent narrow victory, followed by the invasion of Iraq, the deregulation of Wall Street, the 2008 Great Recession and stonewalling progress on issues such as climate change and gay rights, demonstrated the foolhardiness and short-sightedness of that position.

And while I was and remain no fan of President Bush, the difference between him and Trump is so enormous that it’s hard to get your head around it.

I’m also not sure that this morning’s events offer a true indication about the state of unity within the Democratic Party.  The Sanders supporters in that room and out in the streets of Philadelphia are not representative of Sanders supporters overall. They tend to be younger, more activist, more vocal, more idealistic and closer to revolutionary than most of those who cast primary ballots on behalf of Sanders. They are also much less likely to be serving as delegates to the actual convention.

So we’ll see what happens tonight, when Sanders addresses the convention. The chances that he’ll pull a Ted Cruz, ostentatiously refusing to endorse the person who defeated him, is nil. He has said earlier that “I intend to do everything I can to make certain (Clinton) will be the next president of the United States,” traveling to “every corner of this country” to spread the message that she is “far and away the best candidate.”

It’ll be interesting to see how he drives that point home tonight.

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CarlosSantiago
CarlosSantiago

Bernie Sanders showed more character and class in one speech than Hillary Clinton has shown in her entire life.

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

When Hillary asked Trump why he had not released his tax returns, he replied " I did, I e-mailed them to you direct "

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

Watching the parade of speakers at the DNC Convention is like watching a Turner Classic movie of the 3 Stooges talking to a band of chimps at the Zoo

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

To placate the Bernie supporters who got screwed by Hillary and the DNC, the Dems have set up a booth at the Convention Hall to reload the Delegates EBT cards 

lvg
lvg

Speeches last night were beyond exceptional - especially Franken, Booker, Warren,and Bernie. Michelle's speech is one for the ages. 

"When they go low, we go high" - any question whom she was referring to. ???


Amazing how DNC synched her speech to Hillary's ad about "your children are watching"

Sarah Silverman said it all when she told her fellow Bernie supporters to get over it.


Quite a contrast to the trophy wife reading her plagiarized speech which she did not understand or mean and the  fascists screaming to lynch Obama and Hillary.


At least today Trump now admits he intends to normalize relations with his real campaign manager- Vladmir.


See if Cons are waking  up from their fit of hatred and venom last week

rimsky
rimsky

@Donnie_Pinko I saw that yesterday.  Experts think it is bogus.  BTW where is Eddy living right now?

lvg
lvg

@Donnie_Pinko More evidence the traitor helped Putin and the KGB do the hack. His word has the same odor as as a pack of dogs crapping togehter.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Watched a bit of Michelle's speech. When she talks about her daughters, it's more than apparent that she's a mother first and all else is secondary. I could identify with her "first day of school" account. 

Then she gets to the part about this being the greatest country in the world. "Oops!" should have left that one alone, I thought. In her mind, it only became great eight years ago when her husband took office.

Then I see some Hillary supporter talk about how Hillary has been for working people all of her life. "Is that why they're doing so poorly now?" I wondered.

While I've always loved Paul Simon's music, I was left to ponder why they chose a domestic abuser to perform during Hillary's "excellent adventure."

schnirt


Finn-McCool
Finn-McCool

@FIGMO2 She will be the 2nd female President and the 2nd African American President.

td1234
td1234

So last night we learned that the country turned to a place that a person could be proud of for the first time in her life to the greatest country ever known to mankind. 


Wow, the messiah has come for sure. 

Peachs
Peachs

@lvg @RantNRave @td1234 family values is not a mail order bride, and two ex wives raising your children,learn from Michelle..

RantNRave
RantNRave

"Lol. Guess I'm gonna have to retire that phrase 'smarter liberals' going forward.Down to about one now. Can't use the plural any more, lol."


@Donnie the Pinko Pooty Sympathizer


I guess I'm not gonna stop using the phrase


"poorly educated" cons after listening to


all of the educated, intelligent speakers last 


night.


BTW


Michelle Obama sent a message to


Melania.....you can't touch this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNWYqDU948


JeffreyEav
JeffreyEav

Hey fellow smart liberals. Donnie's giving out report cards like Nikki Haley. Who's top of the class?

rimsky
rimsky

hysterical anti-Russian campaign ///

Mr. Pinko

You get me wrong.  I am not anti Russian at all.

I am anti Putin.  You know the billionaire in Russia who grabbed power and money from others.

He used his intelligence agency to help his buddy Trumpy. 

THAT IS WHAT I AM AGAINST.

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

@rimsky 

He used his intelligence agency to help his buddy Trumpy. 

-

Not willing to wait for the evidence to come out?

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

@rimsky @Donnie_Pinko 
No, I'm talking about independent, objective evidence, not the kind that has a vested interest in stoking conflict. 


The bulk of the “evidence” has come from the statements of cybersecurity firms FireEye and Crowdstrike, both of which have lucrative contracts with the US government. As FireEye’s CEO once made clear, his company has a financial stake in nation-state hacking tensions.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/25/russia-blame-dnc-email-hack-premature

lvg
lvg

@Donnie_Pinko @rimsky The evidence came out of Trump's mouth yesterday- normalizing relations with Russia. There are a few issues he may want to get educated on before he praises his real campaign manager like troop buildup in Eastern Europe, US defensive miissiles  on russia's border, Russia' proxy war in Ukraine, Crimea, breach of Ukraine's treaty with Russia, killing anti-Assad rebels, embargoes of Russia, doping scandal, etc. etc. etc.

Of course those do not allow Trump to make money unless all his hidden debt to Russkies gats forgiven by the  KGB man.

rimsky
rimsky

@Donnie_Pinko @rimsky If guardian say so you believe it.

BTW do you know who is majority in the Senate and the House.

Yes they are the government.

I thought you are smarter than that.

That same government is going after Hillary with some bold faced lies and half truths.

We can do this all day long.

But I need to spend couple of hours on business.

Hope to catch you later.  Be cool and think before you post.

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

@Peachs yes, but just the ones with the AK-47's and suicide vests, about 9% of the total worldwide population 

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

Lol. Guess I'm gonna have to retire that phrase 'smarter liberals' going forward.
Down to about one now. Can't use the plural any more, lol.

JeffreyEav
JeffreyEav

Ok so far. No violence. There will be less booing tonight. Last night's speeches were awesome. It's a new morning in America.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@JeffreyEav

There will be less booing tonight

I would hope some mammas made some phone calls, reminding some folks of how they were raised.

foo2u
foo2u

Michelle O... What a beautiful person...

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@foo2u

You sure she's not a fat pig who force-feeds our children food that always gets thrown in the trash?

And HATES OUR COUNTRY?

ByteMe
ByteMe

And somehow with only 2% of the "consistent Sanders" supporters not favoring either Trump or Clinton, MSNBC found all four of them last night after Bernie's speech.

What are the f^$&ing odds?

Peachs
Peachs

@ByteMe they fired Williams for churning the news?  What did he do that is not even more, now with Todd?  

ByteMe
ByteMe

Thought process for Bernie supporters and the concern trolls pushing him:

If you want to make the process "more open", you get rid of caucuses, which are low turnout affairs requiring people to show up at a particular place at a particular time and stay there for hours... and replace them with primaries where any registered Democrat (or in some states, anyone at all) can vote during the day.  

By the way, after you agree to that, notice that Bernie was a big winner of caucuses, but not so much the primaries.

With that one change, Bernie's campaign doesn't make it to May this year.

Peachs
Peachs

@ByteMe get rid of 17 candidates, with 16 running on religion, and one running on thug, the 16 watering down the same block of majority voters, while the thug attracting the really crazy white guys and encouraging them they are what America needs.