There is no Trump but this Trump

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(AP)

Here’s all you need to know about Donald Trump’s “major policy speech” on immigration last night in Arizona:

A speech that would send the likes of Coulter into spasms of ecstasy was not a pivot or softening. It showed no sign of a more humane, moderate and realistic approach that Trump himself had suggested was coming. In the end, he didn’t have the guts to pull it off. Instead, what he delivered last night to a cheering, chanting crowd of thousands of Trump fans was a repeat, at times cruder and more harsh, of the same basic message that he has been delivering for more than a year now.

Build the wall, deport ’em all, and make Mexico pay for it. There was no ambiguity, no cause to hope for something better.

As Politico reports:

“Immediately following the Arizona speech, Jacob Monty, a member of Trump’s newly formed National Hispanic Advisory Council, resigned, and Alfonso Aguilar, the president of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, said in an interview that he is “inclined” to pull his support.

“I was a strong supporter of Donald Trump when I believed he was going to address the immigration problem realistically and compassionately,” said Monty, a Houston attorney who has aggressively made the case for Trump. “What I heard today was not realistic and not compassionate.

“It’s so disappointing because we feel we took a chance, a very risky chance,” Aguilar said. “We decided to make a big U-turn to see if we could make him change. We thought we were moving in the right direction…we’re disappointed. We feel misled.”

Earlier in the day, in his appearance with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, Trump had seemed sullen and out of character, like an overgrown boy who was dressed up in a suit reading somebody else’s words, but who would much prefer to be somewhere else, doing something else. That somewhere else proved to be in front of an adoring crowd, where the real Trump comes fully to life, where he could say the things that he apparently did not dare to say to Peña Nieto when he had the chance.

“We will build a great wall along the southern border. And Mexico will pay for the wall, 100 percent. They don’t know it yet, but they’re going pay for the wall,” he said last night, and his people roared their approval, and he smiled back in approval of their approval.

The first debate will be Sept. 26, a little more than three weeks away. It promises to be interesting.

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randymjonessr
randymjonessr

The first debate really isn't a debate since they will not be on stage at the same time. Just a question and answer session of each candidate. I expect softball questions to Hillery and hardball question to Mr.Trump. Once again, most of the media is biased favorably toward Hillery and report nit picking stuff against Mr. Trump. Notice I call him Mr. Trump out of respect and call her by her first name rather than what I truly feel about her.

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

@Peachs Your post down below about Trump's house early in the morning has me in tears from laughing.  LOL


"Tangled hair, spilled bottles of Viagra, smeared mascara,  large cans of orange spray paint, and trying to remember what he texted at 2 in the morning..."

Robert1959
Robert1959

The world seems to be going mad with division and Donald Trump has found a effective strategy to take advantage - hatred, fear and bigotry (i.e., immigration - build a wall). Whether it is Religious fundamentalism versus the modern world, nationalism versus openness, old versus young or us versus them. In each case a group that used to have the upper hand is now angrily despondent at its place in society and future prospects. In its report, the Associated Press pointed out that white America, the core of the Republican Party, is no longer insulated from the consequences of such economic trends, as they once might have been and Donald Trump has tapped into this fear and anger. 

"Hardship is particularly growing among whites, based on several measures. Pessimism among that racial group about their families economic futures has climbed to the highest point since at least 1987. While poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics are nearly three times higher, by absolute numbers the predominant face of the poor is white. More than 19 million whites fall below the poverty line of $23,021 for a family of four, accounting for more than 41% of the nation's destitute, nearly double the number of poor blacks. Going back to the 1980s, never have whites been so pessimistic about their futures, according to the General Social Survey, a biannual survey conducted at the University of Chicago. Just 45% say their family will have a good chance of improving their economic position based on the way things are in America."

This has been a steaming kettle for over 50 years in the USA when President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act - 1965 but is now peaking with the rise of political extremism it becomes clear that technology advancement is the real culprit.  In the USA what was once a great political party (GOP) has become an unrecognizable collection of resentments and prejudices against Muslims/Blacks/Hispanics and LGBT Americans.  Donald Trump can "tweet" at 3:00am in the morning and dominate the news media (internet,tv,radio,etc.) or hold a new conference regardless of the content feeding the social media frenzy.  Who needs to advertise when the media (social) are doing it for free?  Trump used all media (tv, radio, newspapers, Facebook, Twitter etc.) like he was hosting a reality TV show for POTUS.



Globally the technology revolution impact is devastating.  For example in the Middle East cynical leaders are taking advantage of the desperation and deep sense of insecurity in unemployed young men who are struggling to find a place of belonging and a source of pride. In Britain racism and bigotry are flourishing spectacularly as the older generation seeks a scapegoat for their growing irrelevance in the modern, globalized economy.



https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/trump-brexit-isis-symptoms-technology-problem-vitaly-golomb?trk=eml-b2_content_ecosystem_digest-recommended_articles-209-null&midToken=AQHAMxmWnqmhCg&fromEmail=fromEmail&ut=2ws-_RZ24hyno1





YouLibs
YouLibs

Jay's up early today.


Sheets.

rimsky
rimsky

@YouLibs He is changing sheets this early.  Friday and long weekend coming up.

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

@STHornet1990 @DownInAlbany The emails that she hid for several years are now biting her in the rear end.  She would have been better off, simply coming clean.  Most of this would have blown over by now.  Instead, it's going to haunt her for years to come.

Peachs
Peachs

@DownInAlbany @STHornet1990 from the same man who has had her indicted over and over again, now says she would be better off.  


Better off from where, she is about to be the first woman president in the United States, how do you get, " better off"?

Peachs
Peachs

@DownInAlbany and in the real world this charity has done a lot of good, strange how these heathens do the job of Christians and get the boos..

lvg
lvg

Trump's big lie about immigrants  debunked by Brooks in NY Times:


""""Trump claims the rich benefit from immigration while everyone else suffers. Doctors get cheap nannies, everyone else gets the shaft.

This is false, too. The fact is, a vast majority of Americans benefit. A study by John McLaren of U.Va. and Gihoon Hong of Indiana University found that each new immigrant produced about 1.2 new jobs, because immigrants are producers and consumers and increase overall economic activity.

A report from the Partnership for a New American Economy found that immigrants accounted for 28 percent of all new small businesses in 2011. Between 2006 and 2012, over 40 percent of tech start-ups in Silicon Valley had at least one foreign-born founder.

The cities that are doing best economically work hard to attract new immigrants because the benefits are widely shared. As Ted Hesson points out in The Atlantic, New York, Chicago, Houston and Los Angeles account for about 20 percent of America’s economic output, and in those places, immigrants can make up as much as 44 percent of the total labor supply.""""

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/opinion/identity-politics-run-amok.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0


Cons lie and the Stupid Party continues to attract the brain dead.

Peachs
Peachs

@lvg we are doing fine right now, don't need a change. 

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

How can you Libs be against Trump's immigration plan?

Bad actors out.

In bounds controlled.

Clean nose illegals get to stay.

No family busting or armed child snatching as Dems did with  Elian Gonzalez.

I know it really hurts to admit Trump has a good plan.  But go ahead.

You'll get over it.

lvg
lvg

@JohnnyReb Hey JR - do you think taking more little blue  pills will keep you guy from softening after he pretends to be the deporter in chief?

Menace
Menace

@JohnnyReb  Elian Gonzalez's father wanted his son with him.  The fact that their home was in Cuba is inconsequntial.  Probably the boy would have been better with the FL relatives, but, that's not our call.  it's the fathers.  Child snatch?  You are delusional.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

It's Friday.

Some kind of news dump likely.

Possibly unflattering Hillary emails from the State Department around 4PM?

Isn't politics exciting? 

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@ByteMe @JohnnyReb I'm guessing.

They like to put the bad stuff out on Friday afternoon, and this Friday is prime because of the holiday.

No, we are likely in for some news later today.

Peachs
Peachs

@ByteMe @JohnnyReb we need to find a way to trick Assange out of that embassy, a telegram something tricky, then grab him and turn him over to be tried for the rape charges he hides from. 

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

Just learned Hispanics have a WMD per Hispanic Trump surrogate, a taco truck on every corner. LOL Clown show

Peachs
Peachs

@StraightNoChaser it is amazing what the light of day turns up in the Trump camp.  I can only imagine the scene early in the morning in the penthouse at Trump Towers.  


Tangled hair, spilled bottles of Viagra, smeared mascara,  large cans of orange spray paint, and trying to remember what he texted at 2 in the morning...



Peachs
Peachs

Seems to me we are voting for the GOP that is  causing the rural boom in rural crime going unnoticed in this state...

Peachs
Peachs

  • "The new boom in American prisons is happening in mostly white, rural and politically conservative areas."



rimsky
rimsky

Latino Trump backers are warning increasing latino population will bring Taco trucks on every street corner.

Backlash in twitter is funnier than ever.

Menace
Menace

@rimsky  Cool!  Sometimes it's hard to find a good food truck.

Peachs
Peachs

@rimsky Trump describes a country that doesn't exist and has his mob in arms chasing ghost!

rimsky
rimsky

Obama hasn't been interested in ours or anyone else's for a long time, if ever.//////

Do you have proof of that?

Mr. Pinko will strongly disagree with you.  He thinks Obama is too over bearing in his foreign policy.

Peachs
Peachs

@DownInAlbany @rimsky nuke em Downs, then we will not have any foreigners to have a foreign policy, is that what you had in mind?

ByteMe
ByteMe

Trump: Our message to the world will be this. You cannot obtain legal status or become a citizen of the United States by illegally entering our country. Can't do it.

This declaration alone will help stop the crisis of illegal crossings and illegal overstays, very importantly. People will know that you can't just smuggle in, hunker down and wait to be legalized. It's not going to work that way. Those days are over.

Importantly, in several years when we have accomplished all of our enforcement and deportation goals and truly ended illegal immigration for good, including the construction of a great wall, which we will have built in record time. And at a reasonable cost, which you never hear from the government.

And the establishment of our new lawful immigration system then and only then will we be in a position to consider the appropriate disposition of those individuals who remain.


Illegal immigrants are remaining?  That's not "we'll round up all 11 million of them on day one and get them out of the country".

Trump is for amnesty!!

ByteMe
ByteMe

@JohnnyReb I'm QUOTING TRUMP.  

How long can you convince yourself that he isn't lying to you?

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@ByteMe there you go stirring up hate and discontent with misinformation.

It's not good enough for you LibProgs that an illegal who has led a clean life here who decides to stay will become legal.

The horror!

What you guys really can't stand is, they will never be citizens with the vote unless they go out, get in line, and come back.

DownInAlbany
DownInAlbany

@ByteMe Why aren't you cheering him, then?  It's one step shy of the amnesty AND open borders that the dems support.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@ByteMe @JohnnyReb you added on.

There will never be amnesty under Trump.

He is not lying.

You guys have become conditioned under Hillary to expect everything to be a lie and can't recognize the truth when you hear it.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@JohnnyReb  I added nothing except my own commentary and made it clear what I was responding to.


He is lying to you.


He is for amnesty.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@DownInAlbanySo that's why we have more border patrol agents, more money spent on securing the border, more illegal immigrants returned to their home country under Obama than under Bush.  "Open borders".

You're so full of poo your eyes are brown.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@DownInAlbany You definitely have NO idea what dems support and just like trolling with misinformation.