OK, gentlemen, if you wish to go there …

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It’s admittedly just a guess, but I’d bet good money that if you put them on a cattle scale instead of a stage, the two men pictured above would probably weigh a combined 500 pounds, although 600 may be closer to the truth. Neither has seemed to master the basic exercise of pushing yourself away from the dining table.

Yet these days, Donald Trump and his sidekick, Newt Gingrich, are going around the country attacking a woman by the name of Alicia Machado for her weight gain back in 1996, the year that she reigned as Miss Universe. On Fox & Friends this week, Trump accused her of a “massive weight gain,” and in the past has said that as Miss Universe, Machado had ballooned up to 170 pounds, concluding “this is somebody who likes to eat.”

Not to be outdone, Gingrich told an audience in Washington last night that “you’re not supposed to gain 60 pounds during the year that you’re Miss Universe,”  with the audience reportedly breaking into laughter.

if this seems to be a bizarre thing for politicians to be talking about, it is. But Trump, Gingrich and other Trump surrogates are pushing the weight-gain story as a way to try justify Trump’s cruel treatment of Machado back in 1996, when he took to calling her names such as “Miss Piggy” and allegedly “Miss Housekeeping” because of her Latina background. According to Machado, the experience was so humiliating that it took years to recover her self-esteem.

But back then, Machado’s self-esteem was the least of Trump’s worries. He owned the Miss Universe franchise, and as the title holder Machado was his prime asset, so to speak. So to “help” her to lose weight, Trump not only taunted and berated Machado and ordered her to report to the gym, he brought in hordes of cameras and reporters to document just how “fat” she had gotten, and to help him humiliate and shame her back into the prime cut of human flesh that could make him more money.

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The picture to the left shows Machado in that well-publicized workout. Note the photographers in the background. If Trump and Gingrich are right, she would be about 175-180 pounds in that picture. That doesn’t appear to be anywhere near the case. Machado herself has said that her gain was more like 10 to 15 pounds, which looks more accurate.

But set all that aside and think about what’s happening here: At another point in his career, Trump was also owner of the New Jersey Generals in the now-defunct USFL. Could you imagine Trump publicly hauling an offensive lineman before reporters and TV cameras, accusing him of being fat and out of shape, and insisting that he begin working out so all the world could make fun of him?

Or is this something that he would only do to a 20-year-old woman?

Now, take another look at the two men pictured in the top photo. Combined, they have six wives. Throw in Rudy Giuliani, another prominent Trump supporter, and the number jumps to nine wives.

Well, in addition to attacking Machado for her weight gain, the Trump campaign is now coyly trying to resurrect the story of Bill Clinton’s past infidelities and marital problems as a way to strike back at Hillary. Nobody is making them do this. It is the course that they’ve chosen to take, because that is how petty and mean they are.

At Monday night’s debate, Trump dramatically announced that tempted as he was, he would not say “extremely rough” things about the Clinton family, later explaining that the “extremely rough” things that he wasn’t going to talk about was Bill Clinton’s infidelities, Monica Lewinsky, the blue dress and all that tawdry stuff that he was too nice a man to talk about. His son, Eric, told the press that he had never been more proud of his father than he had been watching the elder Trump NOT talk about the Clinton infidelities, Monica Lewinsky, the blue dress and all that tawdry stuff that he was too nice a man to talk about. David Bossie, Trump’s deputy campaign manager, even went on Fox to accuse Hillary of having been an enabler of her husband’s flings that of course, the campaign didn’t want to talk about.

And Giuliani said this week that if Hillary Clinton hadn’t known about her husband’s fling with Monica Lewinsky, then she must be “too stupid to be president”.

Let me stress this again: This is the Trump campaign and Trump surrogates trying to inject this stuff into the middle of a presidential campaign.  This is the turf upon which they themselves have chosen to fight.

So for the record, Giuliani married his second cousin once removed. When he wanted to get rid of her, he sought an annulment from the Catholic Church on the grounds that, well, she was his second cousin once removed. Later, when Giuliani wanted to dump his second wife as well, he called a press conference to announce their separation, telling the whole world about it before he bothered to inform his wife or their children.

”Today’s turn of events brings me great sadness,” the second Mrs. Giuliani said a few hours after the surprise announcement. “I had hoped to keep this marriage together. For several years, it was difficult to participate in Rudy’s public life because of his relationship with one staff member.”

By the time of his announcement, however, Giuliani had already moved on from that staff member to yet another woman, Judith Nathan, his “very good friend” who later became his third wife. I guess Wife No. 2 was stupid not to have known that. In fact, maybe it was her fault for being an “enabler.”

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Rudy Giuliani and his “very good friend” Judith Nathan, later to become his third wife.

And then of course there’s Gingrich, who was himself married and carrying on an affair with a House staff member even as he stage-managed the impeachment of President Clinton for lying about an affair.

Strategically speaking, none of this makes sense for the Republicans. It never has. Back in 1998, at Gingrich’s direction, House Republicans launched attack ads on Clinton’s sexual misconduct, hoping to ride the scandal to electoral success in the midterms. Instead, Democrats gained five seats, only the second time since the Civil War that a two-term president’s party had gained seats in the midterm. And on the day the House officially voted to impeach Clinton, his Gallup job-approval rating hit 73 percent.

It’s hard to believe that a line of attack that drove Bill Clinton to all-time heights in popularity as president is going to work any better when it’s resurrected 20 years later and targeted at his wife of all people. Republican campaign strategists know that, and they’re appalled by what they’re seeing. But there’s nothing they can do to stop it, because vile, mean people apparently can’t help but do vile, mean things. It is who they are.

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St Simons he-ne-ha
St Simons he-ne-ha

"I like small butts and I cannot lie.."

said no hit song, or man, ever

PTCer
PTCer

Paging Jennie Craig, paging Jenny Craig for The Donald and sidekick Eye of Newt -- walking heart attacks on a stick!

killkubota
killkubota

I don't think Trump has ever denied he said or did those things to her.

YouLibs
YouLibs

@killkubota


I like to let things of that significance play out in the court, but I must admit that people of exceptional means tend to get exceptional justice.


I don't know what to think of it yet.

Pat B5003
Pat B5003

How about that Trump - who's BMI is a mere 4 lbs away from being classified as "obese" is the LAST person who needs to be throwing stones about anyone being overweight.?

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

His narrative fits right in with his brown nose followers

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

@Philo_Farnsworth Philo, remember when I told you that the Republicans would regret their veto yesterday and the reasons why? Remember how I predicted they would blame Obama? Guess whose crying today and blaming Obama for their 911 veto?  You got it Mitch McConnell and Lying Ryan.  Jay has a new sheet talking about it.

JamVet
JamVet

Nominating a buffoonish TV star for POTUS is going to be yet another kidney shot to the foundering, hijacked "conservative" movement...

JamVet
JamVet

Say what you will about him, Barack Obama is 100 times the role model of decency and class that Don Trump could ever hope to be.

PTCer
PTCer

Sorry should have typed "Brought" back

YouLibs
YouLibs

@PTCer 


I liked this post, but I REALLY liked the first one before you changed it.

PTCer
PTCer

Very well said.

JamVet
JamVet

@PTCer

He has been the modern day Jackie Robinson, PTCer.


Granted the malignancy is not as murderous as it was then, but only because their hatred has been beaten back by those of us who strive for that "more perfect union"...

PTCer
PTCer

President Obama and First Lady Michelle will be sorely missed. They have been a class act from the start. President Obama brought back our economy, included millions to healthcare which is a fundamental right -- NOT a privilege, and bright back the dignity and respect of world leaders back to the Oval Office. Trump, isn't good enough to shine President Obama's shoes!

ByteMe
ByteMe

When claiming you won the debate doesn't fly, claim it was "rigged".  That's the party of "personal responsibility".


Buncha freaks.

oakislandbeachbum
oakislandbeachbum

Ignore entry below. I "fat fingered it".  Note, I am fat shaming myself so no-one needs to be offended. Meanwhile, Likeothers,I think the two guys in the photo are pushing 600lbs. Donald does wear his fat well with the astute aid of his taylor., "butt" he's just plain obese.

JamVet
JamVet

The people who come off the absolute worst among us regarding these seedy, serial adulterers and licentious men?


The oh not so pure, the not so Puritan, Christian morality police.


Where are the legion of conservative pastors denouncing to their apparently blind flock, this man's boastful, wicked and immoral behavior?


THIS is the utterly immoral man they are teaching their mothers, wives and daughters to accept as a role model for this nation?!


Bueller?


Anyone?



ByteMe
ByteMe

@JamVet Prosperity Jesus demands a sacrifice from your wallet.

JamVet
JamVet

@ByteMe @JamVet


And td and others here see no problem at all that the fraud hasn't been in a church five times in decades and knows so little about Christianity that he won't ask God for forgiveness!

And these alt-right, quasi-Christian sheep are going to vote for him anyway!!

PTCer
PTCer

Don't hold your breath for a charitable donation to those less fortunate and so deserving from Trump. The only charities Trump donates to are to himself and his gold-plated 3rd wife.

Oh and did you hear, the White House and West Wing aren't good enough for him. He wants a $100 million renovation to the ballroom alone! Yeah, this guy can relate to the middle class! We're just annoying ants to step on.

gapeach101
gapeach101

I'm so confused.  Maybe you folks can help me out.


A. Hillary is running for president.

B.  Hillary's husband had some affairs while they were married.

C. Donald is running for president.

D.  Donald has had some affairs while he was married.


So, why is this bad for Hillary and not Donald? Is there some formula here I'm missing.  You know, if A=C and B=D, then Hillary somehow had an affair? 

Peachs
Peachs

My question better put! What is the deal here, and if there are guilty parties, Hillary a one of em!

DerekGator
DerekGator

@gapeach101 :  You clearly miss the point.  HRC is supposed to be the candidate that stands up for women but she attacked and maligned the women that dared to speak up about being attacked by her husband. 

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

You LibProgs are hypocritical parrots.

A flood of evidence on Hillary attacking Bill's bimbos yet you bless it and prefer to think the Donald calling the ever growing beauty queen piggy a bigger offense.

You deserve to lose.

LordHelpUs
LordHelpUs

@JohnnyReb  I read the articles below and you cannot point to a single iota of proof of "Hillary ATTACKING ( my emphasis) Bill's bimbos".  That is shameful.  The lady was a victim of Bill's philandering, for Gawd's sake!

Peachs
Peachs

The fact you don't get this is really starting to scare me. Trump is a loose cannon both in and outside his pants!

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@LordHelpUs @JohnnyReb are you that naive?

you really expect the first lady to personally talk to the bimbo's or speak to the media about them?

She used surrogates and aides.  There are first hand reports of her vindictive actions.

LordHelpUs
LordHelpUs

@JohnnyReb @LordHelpUs  BS.  You gotta contort yourself into a pretzel to justify your accusation.  It's been a rw meme for so long, you effers just assume it's true!

PTCer
PTCer

So she's an enabler AND a vindictive bitch? Do I have that right? Give me a break.

While I don't condone infidelity, Bill Clinton did a very good job as President while in office. And with Hillary's experience, I expect her to do an even better job.

If Trump wins, God help us all because WW3 will begin the day he takes office.

rimsky
rimsky

 Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), such as ibuprofen and naproxen and diclofenac, are commonly used to treat pain and inflammation.

The British Medical Journal study looked at 10 million people, aged 77 on average, who took the drugs.

UK experts said the findings had little relevance for most under-65s but were a possible concern for elderly patients.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-37496348

I think you folks should be aware of this study.  It is worth a looksie.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@rimsky thanks, I've tried all three they reference but prefer aspirin which is also classified as a NSAID.

One draw back with large doses is it thins your blood and when cut the bleeding does not stop as quickly.  For surgery, you have stop taking it about a week before.

None are good long term, so it's a choice of hurting all the time or possibly kicking out early.

They all beat the narcotics. 

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

@rimsky 

Good research article. Those are bad for your kidneys as well. I used to take em if I lifted a lot and felt sore but quit taking them a while back. Bromeline from pineapple works much better for joint pain and inflammation. Walnuts as well. 
Walnuts are nature's wonder nut.

Peachs
Peachs

I am sure if someone had told Hilary years ago that her uncontrolled sex life would be an issue in our presidential run ,she would have had a hard time believing it

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

Someone told Bill but then he was never a very good listener

rimsky
rimsky

@Infraredguy I am not, never ever, swear to not vote for Bill again.

Bawahahahahaha

Peachs
Peachs

And he did manage eight years, wonder what are he would have been like if he had been gay?

KUTGF
KUTGF

So good to see that some of the same clowns who think the birther issue Trump bears great responsibility for as a "nothing burger" think that 20 year old affairs are big issues. 

Very telling

KUTGF
KUTGF

The Obama administration, in its latest effort to update workplace policies it says have lagged far behind the realities of Americans' lives, will require federal government contractors to provide paid sick leave to their workers."
____________
THANK YOU OBAMA!

gapeach101
gapeach101

@Infraredguy Saved me $12,000 the first year, and, no I wasn't getting a subsidy.  THANK YOU OBAMA.

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

A basement dweller like you would not know, that's for sure

KUTGF
KUTGF

@Infraredguy Sure thing sweetie.  I imagine you have a lot of time there in aisle 6 at the Whole Foods. 

KUTGF
KUTGF

@Infraredguy Sure thing sweetie....what would I know about contracts, laws and government.  LOL.................... LOL.................... Is that the best you can do... so weak. 

ByteMe
ByteMe

@Infraredguy My insurance is definitely less than it would have cost.  Just because your insurance company screwed you over doesn't mean it applies to the rest of us.

Doom Classical liberal
Doom Classical liberal

@ByteMe @Infraredguy 

Insurance rates have gone up every year under ACA and quite substantially. Matter of fact it was just reported on Fox that the Florida dept of insurance just granted a 14.5 % increase in premiums next year. 

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

Like he said if your going to lie, lie BIG

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

I see you have never bid on Goverment contacts and gone through the stack of documents. I have

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

THANK YOU OBAMA " If you like your plan, you can keep your plan " It will save every person 2,500 dollars a year on their insurance. " THANK YOU OBAMA

gapeach101
gapeach101

@Doom Classical liberal @gapeach101 @Infraredguy

Honey, no lie.  My premiums with BCBS were going to be $36,000 a year.  Two adults in their 60s with family coverage (late in life kids).  $3,000 deductible.  Because of Obama care I was able to get insurance for a mere $24,000.