More ‘show votes’ to repeal Obamacare, but no real plan

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(CBS)

In an interview broadcast on “60 Minutes” Sunday night, House Speaker Paul Ryan put on a brave, confident face. The very first bill that he and the House will take up come January, he said, will be legislation that repeals Obamacare.

In that same interview, Ryan promised that he and his fellow Republicans would not “pull the rug out from under” the many Americans who previously did not have health insurance but now do thanks to Obamacare. “We will give everyone access to affordable healthcare coverage,” he said, promising a plan to provide “better coverage at a better price.”

Yet that is not reality, and Ryan knows it is not reality.

Yes, we now have a Republican president-elect who campaigned on an explicit promise to repeal Obamacare. We have a GOP House and a GOP Senate, and every single Republican member of those chambers has publicly committed to repeal Obamacare. Theoretically speaking, nothing stands in the way of a full and immediate repeal of the program that Republicans have treated as a dire threat to all that is good and true in America.

Yet it’s not going to happen. Oh, there will be a repeal vote in January, but it will be nothing more than a show vote, exactly as productive and meaningful as the more than 50 previous repeal votes taken in the House since Obamacare was signed into law. The legislation that passes that day will be vague and without content; it won’t even get consideration in the Republican Senate. In the end, it will have all the impact of an empty piece of paper wadded up and tossed in a trash can.

Here’s another guarantee: The legislation to be voted on in January won’t contain a plan to replace Obamacare, because even after all these years, House Republicans can’t agree even among themselves on what such a replacement plan would look like. Theoretically, they want a conservative plan, a plan that costs nothing and that “gets the federal government out of health care.” But as Ryan’s comments make clear, and as Republican senators have made even more clear, they also know that going backward is not politically plausible.

They know that today, an additional 20 million Americans now have health insurance thanks to Obamacare. The percentage of Americans without coverage has dropped to an all-time low of roughly 9 percent, which is half the rate of uninsured in 2010. And they know that there is no conservative alternative that is both capable of passing a GOP Congress and that will maintain affordable coverage for all of those 20 million.

Or most of those 20 million. Or a majority of those 20 million. Or even a significant minority of those 20 million. And that’s a problem.

The Kaiser Family Foundation has conducted a tracking poll on health-care issues since 2010. In its November poll, taken a week after the election, it found that the percentage of American voters wanting a full repeal of Obamacare had fallen to 26 percent, down from 32 percent in October. If 2o million Americans lose coverage as a result, support for repeal falls to just 20 percent.

And while 52 percent of Republican voters now say they want a full repeal, that represents quite a sharp drop from October, when 69 percent demanded full repeal. All of a sudden, when this becomes real rather than theoretical, when it’s not just a partisan rallying cry, the consequences become real as well. Ryan needs a GOP replacement that can pass the House and pass the Senate and prevent tens of millions of Americans from losing their insurance, and that is an impossibility squared.

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Gunluvr
Gunluvr

The main thing is that his "legacy" be erased, after that nothing else really matters. He was a manager not a leader; Next.

RantNRave
RantNRave

@Hedley_Lammar


Cruel people offer pity when they no longer


 feel threatened.   Kind people offer compassion 


and understanding regardless.

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

The Freedom Caucus has come out to expedite the repeal and replacement of Obamacare.

They want it taken care of right away and certainly not to extend into a third year.

So while there is not a settled plan, there are plan portions that will come together to form a bill which will pass congress and Trump will sign.

All the bellowing and scuffing of hoofs by the LibProgs cannot stop it.  

JohnnyReb
JohnnyReb

@LordHelpUs @JohnnyReb you may fool yourself and other LibProgs with your prognostication but it will be much more than a name change.

I will admit Liberals are likely to get things in the change that would not have been there otherwise.

It's like putting the genie back in the bottle.

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

@JohnnyReb So while there is not a settled plan,....the same ole story for years

LordHelpUs
LordHelpUs

@JohnnyReb LOL!  They'll stage a show vote to appease their sheep then proceed with the hard part.  IMO, they'll change the name and reshuffle the deck.  The willfully ignorant will be satisfied with the name change...

Eye wonder
Eye wonder


I guess it is too sophisticated for you to understand...


I understood the cartoon just fine, @Philo_Farnsworth.  What I don't understand is you and @DownInAlbany constantly harping on Hillary's loss and the idiotic recount effort underway.


Help me to help you - HILLARY LOST; TRUMP IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT; STOP BEING WHINY CRYBABIES AND ACCEPT THE FARKING RESULT ALREADY.

Bill OrvisWhite
Bill OrvisWhite

The entire illegal health care scheme needed to be repealed like yesterday. It's too expensive and a major league jobs-killing program. It would honestly be best to kill it first and then come up with a market-based system that would automatically drive down costs similar to like getting an oil change. Bill here and millions of other businessmen along with tons of doctors retired early due to this massively failed program. It just needs to go away quickly. To be honest, it's better to have nothing than this ridiculous 2700 page bogus document that Nanny Pelosi, Bawney Fwank and Hairy Read REFUSED TO EVEN TRY TO READ!!!!!!! GOOD NIGHT! Amen, Bill 

Bill OrvisWhite
Bill OrvisWhite

@Nick_Danger @RoadScholar @Bill OrvisWhite This broken-down old coot has been around the block or two - and KNOWS that life is quite simple. You just gotta go for easy check-ups to the doctor of your choice to maintain yourself just like getting an oil change. Why should it cost an arm and a leg or in my case, teeth. It's that easy. Amen, Bill 

Bill OrvisWhite
Bill OrvisWhite

@McGarnagle @Bill OrvisWhite ... trying to help all of these clueless secular progressives on this board makes Bill here a tired old coot which makes it feel like night. Actually...just finishing breakfast which includes biscuits with gravy, 10 bacon strips, buttery grits, 5 sausage links topped off with Bill's favorite coffee: Maxwell House from the can only and sweetened with saccharine. Amen, Bill 

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@Bill OrvisWhite Since they do not have a replacement plan, why? Have you read about the affects to hospitals if the law is repealed w/o a fix?

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

DANG! When Van Jones says the Dem Party are elitists and too many of its followers echo their sentiments, it's time for jay's crew to take notice...not only of themselves but their dim party.

Dems see themselves as the al dente party. The "tooth" will set them free!

schnirt

TBS
TBS

Strange how that quote wasn't posted

After all he said it on the same show where he called out Dems.

Actually not strange. More like intellectual dishonesty

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

@TBS Maybe she had to go to the bathroom during that part.

Bill OrvisWhite
Bill OrvisWhite

@FIGMO2 At least Van listens and "gets it" to a degree. Poor Librul Jay and his progressive friends like Huma, Bill Ayres, Billary and the Kennedys just don't "get it." They are out of touch and that's why they lose. Amen, Bill 

gadem
gadem

@FIGMO2 being educated is not elitist...being willfully ignorant is reprehensible. So yes I do look down on those that refuse to educate themselves. I am not better than anyone, and no one is better than me.But if you refuse to educate yourself, I refuse to deal with you. I have no patience for ignorance.

BuckeyeGa
BuckeyeGa

@FIGMO2 When Van Jones says the Republicans needs to deal with the racially hatefully people that come in their party. You should take notice.

TBS
TBS

He also said the following.

He also gave his take on "The Messy Truth" about the Republican Party. "(Republicans) are the party of colorblind individual merit. That sounds great. But as much as Republicans hate to admit it, some nasty strains of some bigotry and some bias, including some actually scary white supremacists, have found a home in their party. And they don't seem to want to acknowledge that or even confront it in a serious way."

Yes it was said on the same show that your paraphrased quote came from.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/06/politics/van-jones-messy-truth-cnntv/index.html

Now you have the Paul Harvery

TBS
TBS

Well she does announce to the blog each time she takes a shnirt

So that might be a good guess

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@FIGMO2

Let me ask you something, felicia --- these really, really nonsensical things you come up with, do you spend time working on them, or is it stream of consciousness type stuff?

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@BuckeyeGa @FIGMO2

That's our messy truth but the realities lie in those states that went from blue to red. The same states that voted for Obama but went for Trump this go'round.

So the question remains...WHY?

Were those voters racist when they voted for Obama?

gadem
gadem

@RandroidWillBoy "Please give me some meaningful evidence that retraining has resulted in new jobs to match that training."

I will provide myself as an example. I worked in manufacturing at a large Telecom factory in Norcross, and got laid off in 2001. I felt sorry for myself for about a month and then went back to school and got a degree in Accounting. Yes it was tough, but nothing in life is easy. I didn't wait on someone to promise me that manufacturing jobs were coming back, nor was I angry at a particular party. I knew what I had to do.

gadem
gadem

@RoadScholar @gadem @RandroidWillBoy all this talk about boot straps is just talk. Why just focus on the "White Working Class" Why not just the "Working Class" everyone heard the message of adapt/retrain/reeducate but the "White Working Class" do they feel that they need special treatment?

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@gadem @RandroidWillBoy Bravo! This is what I have posted over the years. People need to reeducate themselves for today's jobs and economy. Have at least 2 friends that "retired" since they could not deal with computers in their jobs!

LordHelpUs
LordHelpUs

"perception is more important than reality".....worth another repost.  It explains so much, especially the combination of hubris and ignorance that accompanies such a brash admission.

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

That's the point of the cartoon. Why spend time/money on these recounts?

I guess it is too sophisticated for you to understand...

JeffreyEav
JeffreyEav

Who are they gonna use them against? Us?

Donnie_Pinko
Donnie_Pinko

@JeffreyEav 

Well, we know the Syrian 'fighters' are made up primarily of Al Qaeda-linked militias, so, what does suggest? 

I'm guessing Syrian government war planes would be a good guess. 

Or, maybe passenger airliners. 

Who knows.