Opinion: Helping Trump would be ‘patriotic,’ says Putin

(AP)

Speaking from St. Petersburg, Vladimir Putin acknowledged Thursday for the first time that Russian hackers might indeed have been behind computer attacks against the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign, as well as the leaking of documents intended to harm Clinton and help Donald Trump.

“Hackers are free people, just like artists who wake up in the morning in a good mood and start painting a painting,”  Putin told reporters. “Likewise, hackers get up in the morning and read the news about what’s happening in international affairs. If they feel patriotic, they try to make what they see as a fair contribution to the struggle against those who speak ill of Russia.”

That’s interesting on several accounts:

1.) Putin’s statement — after months of total denial — amounts to a de facto admission of strong evidence that links the hacking and leaking back to Russian sources. Putin’s fallback argument is now that the hackers were private individuals, acting on their own, rather than state actors employed, encouraged or trained by the government. U.S. intelligence agencies very strongly disagree.

2.) They disagree in part because Russian hackers, like Russian artists, are NOT “free people,” as Putin puts it. In Russia, for example, you can be tossed in jail for creating, distributing or displaying the image posted below, listed as “Image 4,071” among banned “extremist” images in Russia. So the idea that Russian hackers have the “artistic freedom” to launch organized, sustained attacks against overseas political targets of their choosing, without oversight and permission of the government, is, as the Russians themselves would say, fantastika.

3.) According to Putin, Russian hackers attempting to harm Clinton and help Trump would have been acting out of patriotic fervor and love for Russia. In short, helping Trump was, and is, perceived by Putin as a way of helping Russia. I can’t think of a better source for confirmation.

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Doug Rogers
Doug Rogers

Putin and Dumpster are proof somewhere two villages are missing their idiots.

Jeniffer Jerral
Jeniffer Jerral

All of you making excuses and calling this Russian collusion fake are the worst kind of American, you are unpatriotic, your Reagan would be shocked that you are willing to look the other way and sell our democracy just so you can say you won. Shame on you and all of those republicans that are ok with Russia being in our White House. Communist will not win. \U0001f1fa\U0001f1f8 First, impeach 45!

Tyler Jenkins
Tyler Jenkins

-Vladimir Putin- He ended the Rothschild's control over Russia by nationalizing the Russian Centralized bank. He banned GMO's and created a currency to compete against the $Dollar. Why is he suddenly the enemy?

Greg Hamm
Greg Hamm

Exactly! I thought i was the only one who researched this.

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

@Eye wonder 

If you are still here I left a response to your question about CC.

I did not get a serious reply to my post.

Bill Mullen
Bill Mullen

What kind of idiot would believe Russians made people not vote for Hillary this is the stupidest narrative I've ever heard you have to be an absolute imbecile to believe Hillary lost because of Russians not that she was a corrupt criminal lying and stealing for 40 years

elgrunir
elgrunir

Hey hey hey----get on the train....SHEEEETZ

JackClemens
JackClemens

@elgrunir Oooookaaay, but as soon as I do, it's just two more articles this month. :)

Cway_Atl
Cway_Atl

I find this disturbing that Putin would indicate Russian involvement, and he may also suggest other influence that he now has at a later time. 

I find it sad that so many people do not understand the world moves on.  America is no longer the lead dog and the view from behind is always the same.  Trump's "take my ball and go home" attitude towards the world's economy is going to backfire like no other.  This is not real estate, there are other options out there and we will need our allies faster than they will need us, if we are looking to defeat ISIS.  

But perhaps the Middle East also has a pink slip in the pocket as well (sword dance).  The only two peoples that Trump panders too, Russia and Saudi Arabia, so interesting. 

His new slogan...

Make Amerussia Great Again, really Trump?

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

Trump voters are too lazy to go back to school so that they can get a good paying job.  They are waiting for the government to take care of them.  


Wind Turbine Technician Blows Away Competition As Country's Fastest-Growing Job

The country's fastest-growing occupation is wind turbine technician, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — with numbers expected to more than double over the next decade.

honested
honested

@StraightNoChaser 

Here in Georgia, we manufacture wind turbine transmissions in Oakwood, wind turbine support structures in Elberton, all seeking qualified people to do high precision metal work........ but our governor is too bone stupid to sign on to development of offshore wind on our coast.


stefpe
stefpe

@Philo_Farnsworth I'd imagine the governor would need to give them permission to install those wind turbines.

honested
honested

@stefpe @Philo_Farnsworth 

Precisely.

Most every other governor on the east coast with potential for offshore wind has signed on........not ours.

It might cut into SouCo shareholder's dividends.

honested
honested

@Philo_Farnsworth 

A little research would answer your question.

Instead, we get to pay for absolutely unnecessary new nuke plants, forever.

honested
honested

@stefpe @honested @Philo_Farnsworth 

Good question.

Might not cost enough for them to mark it up sufficiently.

They are in the 'stranded cost' business, not the low-cost, clean power business.

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

How the Trump administration’s secret efforts to ease Russia sanctions fell short


“There was serious consideration by the White House to unilaterally rescind the sanctions,” said Dan Fried, a veteran State Department official who served as chief U.S. coordinator for sanctions policy until he retired in late February. He said in the first few weeks of the administration, he received several “panicky” calls from U.S. government officials who told him they had been directed to develop a sanctions-lifting package and imploring him


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administrations-secret-efforts-ease-russia-sanctions-fell-short-231301145.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw


LordHelpUs
LordHelpUs

It's so important to DIA he is willing to post bald-faced lies...

Peachs
Peachs

He really doesn't know he is lying. It is amazing to watch!

honested
honested

@Peachs 

There, in two sentences, you have distilled the entire "Anti Paris" argument.

There is no reason to oppose the agreement unless you build a giant strawman and attach false values to each blade of straw.

Lying while you don't even know you are lying.

LordHelpUs
LordHelpUs

@Peachs He knows he is lying, IMO.  Just needs some integrity, perhaps...

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

Jews have a word for the kind of people that Jared (Kushner) and Ivanka are.  That word is "shanda."

Kamchak
Kamchak

OH NOES!

NOT THE KATHY GRIFFIN CARD!

I'm MELTING...melting...melting....

honested
honested

@Kamchak 

I think she could get 50 bucks a t-shirt and sell millions if she would print them.

What would wrong-wingers do then?

Kamchak
Kamchak

@honested

I think she would be lucky to get $0.25.

I certainly wouldn't buy one.    

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

I'll admit my ignorance on such matters, but how does one sell a conversion to Judism?
Is it like a Country Club Membership or something?

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@_GodlessHeathen_

Firstly, it's Judaism.  Secondly, the conversion that Ivanka alleges she went through involves a massive amount of sacrifice and commitment.  One way to short circuit that process is to find an unscrupulous rabbi who believes in pay to play.  This is - allegedly (though I have it on very good authority) - what happened with Ivanka.


Since you are now back in the saddle, I will repose the following question which I posed to you a little earlier:


Serious question (because I think you're capable of having serious and reasoned discussion) - do you think the science* concerning climate change is bunk?



* The science that contends the rate and nature of climate change attributed to human activities is unnatural and cause for alarm and thus efforts to arrest it.

Peachs
Peachs

And you can't tell us what the weather is right now your head is so far up it!

King_of_Kolob
King_of_Kolob

@Eye wonder @DownInAlbany It's kind of like the healthcare debate where cons are arguing about freedom to chose your plan and coverage you want, not the kind of care you will need when you get sick... and the id10ts fall for it.

Peachs
Peachs

Downs doesn't believe in either one!

_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

@Eye wonder @_GodlessHeathen_ 

Not total bunk, but a mountain of theory built on a molehill of evidence.


There is evidence in the historic record of very rapid climate change over periods of 400 years or less.

You know what happened when there was 400 year cycle of extreme heat and drought in Central Africa?  An ape-like species climbed down out of the trees and started walking up-right and developing a big brain.

No-one _NO-ONE_ has any frigging idea what the technology and human existence will be in 100 years.

The planet and the great -grandchildren will be just fine.


And if climate change is the threat that it is made out to be, address it like it is.  We didn't have 20 different government agencies building the A bomb or taking us to the moon.



_GodlessHeathen_
_GodlessHeathen_

Sorry about the mis-spelling.  I thought it was like becoming a Baptist or anything else.  You started showing up at the meetings and declared yourself to be one.

I didn't know they had initiation.

honested
honested

@DownInAlbany @King_of_Kolob @Eye wonder 

If you break your arm, do you want to be treated, or do you want to make sure the 'carrier' makes a 'profit' by sending you to the butt cheapest place on their 'network'?

Peachs
Peachs

I am now black doing that! They took charge cards!