Opinion: Trump imagines “very fine” Nazis, white supremacists

You could see it coming Monday, after President Trump dutifully read off a script in which he condemned white nationalist racists and American neo-Nazis for their roles in the Charlottesville violence. When reviews of his sullen performance weren’t overwhelmingly positive, he started fuming:

By Tuesday afternoon, he had built up a considerable head of steam that had to be vented. The opportunity came at a press event that was supposed to be about a still-nonexistent infrastructure bill, but that Trump quickly turned into a circus again revolving around Charlottesville.

The crux of Trump’s statement Tuesday was his claim that both sides were equally guilty, and that “you had some very fine people on both sides.”

Just to make sure that there is no confusion, one “side” comprised neo-Nazis and white supremacists, preaching genocide and racial purity and hoping to make a point about their numbers, strength and willingness to engage in battle. On the other side were those who opposed them.

A person on one side — the neo-Nazi side — drove his car at high speed into a crowd of counterprotestors, killing one and injuring 19. Trump nonetheless believes that there were some very fine people on that side, probably because his definition of a very fine person is someone who supports him, which they do.

If you haven’t watched the following, you have a civic duty as an American to do so. Parts of it are difficult to endure. Do it anyway. There are some very fine people interviewed. None of them were waving Nazi flags or preaching genocide or race war.

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huyiki
huyiki

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JK1951
JK1951

Trump only said that not all the people present and against removing the statues were Nazis or white supremacists and he said some of those were fine people. You're lying to imply that he ever inferred that Nazis, white supremacists were "fine people". The fact is that he firmly denounced them.

otherview
otherview

Sheryl Gay Stolberg Retweeted Sheryl Gay Stolberg

Rethinking this. Should have said violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate.

Sheryl Gay Stolberg added,

. The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding "antifa" beating white nationalists being led out of the park 
Commentary on the scene from NYT reporter.  Speaks for itself as does the afterthought revision.Always good to know the violent anfifa was not "hate-filled".  I guess the opposite is cool, collected, methodical  in its violence?




otherview
otherview

clarification - the last paragraph is my comment.  The rest is Ms. Stolberg's twitter feed from NYT.  

When I attempted to cut and paste, the AJC site said it was "malformed content" 

otherview
otherview

@Kamchak @otherview interesting interpretation of "The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right." 


A less perceptive person than you might have interpreted that as its written, that is "the hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt right which". Which, again, to the less perceptive might had indicated both sides were equally hate-filled.


honested
honested

Dangerous Anti-American Fascists and Collaborators Exposed SHEETZ!

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

The CEO of 3M just resigned from Trump's Commission.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Nick_Danger  Good.  As far as I can tell out of the ones left, around 75% are from companies that do a good deal of business with Uncle Sam.

rimsky
rimsky

@Nick_Danger Heard on NPR Trumpka resigned from the manufacturing commision.

honested
honested

@Nick_Danger 

chump will just chide him as he has every other successful businessman who removed the millstone from their neck.

McGarnagle
McGarnagle

Nothing more American than mowing down Nazis. Like our fore fathers did.

rimsky
rimsky

 Ronald Reagan Once Showed Republicans Exactly How To Handle Racists And Bigots“This country, because of what it stands for, will not stand for your conduct.”By Ed Mazza

Poor fella is rolling over in the grave after Trump's speech.  I don't even care for RR.

King Tut 0603
King Tut 0603

@rimsky

Please note RR launched his campaign in Philadelphia Mississippi, the place were three civil rights workers were killed.  He may not have been a bigot but he knew how to leverage them with this dog whistle. 

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

D.I.a. - " I have on several occasions condemned both sides. You must have missed it every time? "

Yes. I saw where you said the words, however I also read these words:

D.I.A. - "Two hate groups fight each other in public. Only one side gets blamed? Why? Because the Media is part of one of the hate groups."

So did you notice the word unequivocally in the Cherokee statement I plagiarized? You may wish to google its meaning.

There's an old saying in Tennessee, well it's in Texas so it must be in Tennessee, fool me once....shame...shame.....fool me twice.....ummmmm.....well ....you just can't be fooled again.

rimsky
rimsky

  And, the left cheered and cheered.

Sorry to hear DIA that people think like that about other folk's misfortune.

It does not affect me or my con buddy at all.  Both are saddened by it.  We want our town to prosper.....

Poor people like us feel for each other.  

I guess you are rich and don't give a damn

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

@TomGaff I would rather talk about those so called good people  that 45 mentioned yesterday who marched around with white nationalist while they chanted....


"you will never replace us" (black people), "Jews will never replace us", and "blood and soil" (a Nazi slogan)

Brosephus
Brosephus

DiA

The way you're hammering in this thread, you're coming off as a Nazi sympathizer at best.

I'm not really sure what your intent is because you don't have the history of posting bigoted crap like others do.  

If this is you playing devil's advocate, I'd suggest just letting this one ride.  You are making yourself look like a defender of racism, and the only people who defend racism is racists. 

If your goal is to show some kind of both sides are bad, once again, I suggest you let this one ride.  Wait until libs here defend the hypocrisy that you see, and then use that opportunity to call them on it.  Make libs defend discrimination instead of looking like you're defending it.

I say this because I genuinely think you're a good person based on conversations here, and I don't want that opinion to change without a valid reason.

McGarnagle
McGarnagle

@Brosephus


This is what happens when you have to defend the actions of a president who can do no wrong. You end up defending the indefensible.

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@DownInAlbany Again, it's NOT TWO HATE GROUPS. 


one side is neo-Nazi racist scum. 

The other side is pretty much every other American who wants equality for everyone. 


Not sure why you can't see this. 

TomGaff
TomGaff

@LogicalDude @DownInAlbany Because what you say is untrue. If they would have allowed to white supremacists and other folks to have there little rally at the park without interference, nothing would have happened?

gotalife
gotalife

The only good nazi is a dead nazi.


Kill them all and let their God sort them out.

honested
honested

@gotalife 

For some reason, that notion doesn't sit well with Scooter.

honested
honested

@gotalife @honested 

Your dad was probably correct.

Chronic infections are best totally eradicated for long term health.

Andy158
Andy158

@honested @gotalife You're starting to sound exactly like the rabid dogs on the other side. Why give the other side ammunition? Ditto for you Got.

TomGaff
TomGaff

@gotalife "Kill them all and let God sortem out" is a term the mercs used in the Vietnam War. Since most of you libbys probably never served, you are not allowed to use that phase.  Tom Gaff, USAF Viet Vet 1965-69.  Walk the walk before you talk the talk!

Billisnice
Billisnice

Send me money and I will help you take care of the evil monuments! dnc

Nick_Danger
Nick_Danger

@Billisnice 

If you'll try to unseat the president who supports racists and Nazis, I'll give!

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

For the last 3 days or so, I have been wondering what Jared Kushner is thinking.

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

Money. This can't be the first time he's seen this side of trump.

justaniceguy
justaniceguy

Especially since Trumps peeps called him out by name....

Billisnice
Billisnice

The best way to deal with these groups is to not give them publicity. Publicity gives them exposure to recruiting members. Both sides are hate groups.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@Billisnice 

 The best way to deal with these groups is to not give them publicity.

Protester's fault.

Should've just let the rally fizzle out.

NAZI rally goers absolved of any culpability.

Got it.