Opinion: No more whining about ‘Hollywood values’

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The things we have to talk about these days …

When comedian Louie C.K. is accused by five women of masturbating in front of them, the consequences are steep and immediate: The premiere of his new movie is canceled and in fact it may never be released, his scheduled appearance on the Stephen Colbert show is canceled, and HBO bans him from appearing on an upcoming comedy special.

Likewise, when Oscar-winning actor Kevin Spacey is accused of attempting to molest a then-14-year-old actor decades ago, with other allegations following later, Spacey is dropped from his starring role on the hit TV series “House of Cards,” a completed movie in which Spacey stars is pulled from distribution and it’s announced that a second nearly completed movie is being reshot with a new actor replacing Spacey.

When Roy Price, the powerful head of Amazon Studios, is accused of sexual harassment by employees, he is fired from his job. When decades-old allegations against Mark Halperin of NBC News surface, the network voids his contract, and book deals and projects with Penguin Press, HBO and Showtime are canceled.

Harvey Weinstein, James Toback, the list goes on and on ….

And when Roy Moore, Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in Alabama and a hero of Christian evangelicals, is accused of dating and molesting girls as young as 14, in two cases plying them with alcohol, what is the reaction of a lot of Alabama Republicans? Many have rushed to Moore’s defense, claimed that it doesn’t matter because the alternative might mean electing a Democrat. Some have tried to excuse it with bizarre comparisons to biblical figures.

“Take Joseph and Mary,” says Alabama state auditor Jim Ziegler. “Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.” (It is my understanding of that story that Joseph and Mary did NOT have sexual relations, that in fact the absence of sex between them is a rather crucial detail of that story. But maybe they teach it differently in Alabama.)

In Washington, a lot of Republicans from President Trump on down have condemned the allegations and have demanded that Moore withdraw from the Senate race, if the charges against him are true. “In the case of Judge Moore, if it’s true, he should step aside in the Senate race,” says Sean Hannity. “Everyone would agree — everybody — that a 32-year-old man pursuing a 14-year-old is beyond disgusting.”

On one hand, that’s an important point, although Hannity has failed to extend that benefit of the doubt to figures such as Harvey Weinstein and Hillary Clinton, among others. Much more importantly, you cannot read the well-documented Washington Post story about Moore’s behavior and plausibly argue that these things did not happen. These are not anonymous sources; the now-grown women have told their stories by name, and have nothing to gain by lying. They did not volunteer their stories to seek publicity for themselves; their stories were ferreted out by Post reporters. And most convincing of all, their accounts are bolstered by statements from dozens of named witnesses who were told of Moore’s antics at the time and place in which they occurred, by the victims themselves.

It leaves you with a rather stark choice: You either believe that all of those people living their lives in small-town Alabama have gotten together — for reasons unknown and by means unknown — to conspire to tell the same lie, or you conclude that Moore is lying.

In short, the allegations against Moore are unproved only in the sense that they have not been criminally adjudicated in a court of law. They are no more “unproved” than are the cases against Harvey Weinstein, Spacey, Halperin, Bill O’Reilly and even Bill Cosby, whose first trial ended in a hung jury, or of any of the other men mentioned above.

In each of those cases, multiple first-person accusations of sexual misconduct coming from victims brave enough to be quoted by name — charges that have then been backed by multiple supporting accounts — have produced profound consequences for the careers of the men involved. In many cases, it took far too long for those cases to become public, for rumor to be turned into fact, but once that happened the reaction in the media and entertainment fields has been swift.

However, when the accused is a Christian ultra-conservative running for a Senate seat, when secular political power might be at stake? At that point, the voices long braying about “Hollywood values,” about the need to sternly enforce moral codes of behavior lest our country fall into the cesspits of sin, suddenly begin to sing a song not found in any hymnal.

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Virgia Lane
Virgia Lane

And if you believe everything you hear and read, then may be dumber than you think...

Mason Malpass
Mason Malpass

When anyone is accused of something, the accuser should take any evidence to the authorities, and if there is evidence, explain why she waited 40 years to present it. If an indictment is initiated, then, and only then should the news media get involved, and then wait for conviction before being convicted by the news media, and crooked politicians, whose only fear is their own crookedness will be exposed. Sadly, this appears to be just another attempt to destroy the best candidate for the job, as so often attempted by the Democrat party. Evidently, Alabama doesn't have enough illegals voters to sway the election..

Drew Sanner
Drew Sanner

Just like the ajc, this one guy justifies the hollywood sickos

Tom Marley
Tom Marley

WE are not whining about Hollywood Values...they have hard proof on Hollywood. The accusations against Moore and just that, No proof at all.

Paula Ayers Therrien
Paula Ayers Therrien

Right. These women never came forward until now. It's called lying for money. From the liberals. VOTE ROY MOORE!

Peachs
Peachs

If the Republicans can’t handle Moore there will be more like him taking over the party. Might be an improvement..

Peachs
Peachs

Not advertising on Hannity is a lot live Chick-fil-A not serving on Sunday. They both end up better off in sales.

gotalife
gotalife

You got ripped off local sheetz.

rimsky
rimsky

 US conservatives are destroying their Keurig coffee machines after the company announced it would stop advertising on a Fox News programme.

Keurig is among five firms that said they would pull ads from The Sean Hannity Show after the host was accused of going easy on an alleged abuser.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41972267

Are you guys too lazy to go out and burn a walmart?

Peachs
Peachs

Think it would be justice served if a few of those thugs tearing up coffee machines got shot in the act with a legally owned assault weapon!

ptcrunner
ptcrunner

@rimsky Time to buy up all things that mindless neo-con sheeple are boycotting: Keurig machines, Jim Beam, subscribe to GQ. 

gotalife
gotalife

No solutions just politics stuck on race.


At some point we have to finally move past race.

HDB0329
HDB0329

@InTheMiddle2 @gotalife ...interesting that THREE Chairmen of the RNC stated that REPUBLICANS use race to gin up the base...


....and note that the GOP is over 95% WHITE and has been doing everything possible to keep diversity OUT of the party.....


...and Kevin Phillips, the devisor of Nixon's "Southern Strategy" stated the black people had no place in the GOP....


...the GOP is saying enough...

Peachs
Peachs

Kind of like t he Republican controlled congress!

ptcrunner
ptcrunner

@gotalife @InTheMiddle2 Gotta love mindless cynicism directed by what Dear Leaders HannityLimbaughIngraham dictate. These people do not possess minds of their own so they repeat cynical mantras like "Then the Dems would have nothing to say." 

straker
straker

Finn - "have the opportunity to have a Mandarin Chinese language tutor"  Do we get to hire a maid also?

ByteMe
ByteMe

@straker From Eastern Europe, sure.  That's the Trump way.

Peachs
Peachs

And most of those are running departments of the e executive branch!

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@PaulinNH "except for slaves still being traded and sold" or was there some other way that slaves were traded and sold until 1865? 

honested
honested

@PaulinNH 

Maybe chump will settle with reimposing 'serfdom' or at least 'indentured servitude' to cut the losses to banks and insurance companies.

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@HDB0329 this mean all of us, or were you directing it to some subset of the freaks here? 

HDB0329
HDB0329

@LogicalDude @HDB0329 ...the distinct subset of freaks of sexual predators....starting with Orange Foolius.....and ending with Roy Moore....

honested
honested

@StraightNoChaser 

One might guess there had been some rumbling about this in republiklan circles in the past......or else mcconnel realizes what a theocratic pig moore is and how dangerous he would be to the United States.

bendedknee
bendedknee

Here's how Trump combats home grown terrorism:


"President Donald Trump's 2018 budget proposal included steep cuts to a number of grant programs run by the Department of Homeland Security that go toward terrorism and violent extremism preparedness and prevention. All told, more than $300 million is slated to be cut from such programs.

The administration has also folded two counterterror grant programs altogether, and is in the process of rebranding the Obama administration's Countering Violent Extremism office."
from CNN

ByteMe
ByteMe

All good autocrats know you need a good crisis to solidify your control over the population.

straker
straker

Citizen - "don't want to live in a third world country"  If they're rich, they can move to Canada, France, England, etc.  All they have to do is let Trump get them more money in reduced taxes then, when America goes to hell, move elsewhere.

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

Where did td run off too?  Scouring his bible for new Roy Moore defense?  Terrible

gotalife
gotalife

Perhaps we need another equal rights act that can't be reversed after they win.

gotalife
gotalife

trump is rubbing the swamp in his voters faces with his hires.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@InTheMiddle2 @gotalife


Coming from the mouth of a white supremacist such as yourself, InTrollingModeSquared, I credit you with holding that belief genuinely!

InTheMiddle2
InTheMiddle2

@Nick_Danger @InTheMiddle2 @gotalife Like what. So far all I have seen is the made up claim that cops just go around shooting black people, which is absolutely not true. Cops shoot ANYBODY that threatens them. 

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@InTheMiddle2 @Finn-McCool @Nick_Danger @gotalife Odd that so many cops are afraid of unarmed black men in particular. 


So. So. Odd.  Maybe extra training should be given to these cops so they know better when to use deadly force. 


Lots of extra training, because way too many unarmed folks are getting killed by cops who just can't handle difficult situations that can actually be handled by those with proper training.