Opinion: Trump embraces religious bigotry

UPDATE at 1:45 p.m.:

The virulently anti-Muslim videos retweeted this morning by President Trump appear to be largely if not entirely false. For example, one video retweeted by Trump purports to show a Muslim immigrant attacking a young Dutch boy on crutches. But according to the Dutch media, the attacker was neither Muslim nor an immigrant, and the two boys depicted in the video had a longstanding personal dispute.

When asked about such concerns, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tried to argue that the veracity of the videos doesn’t matter and that it’s wrong for the media and others to focus on their accuracy.

“”I’m not talking about the nature of the video. I think you’re focusing on the wrong thing,” she told the press. “The threat is real, and that’s what the President is talking about, is the need for national security and military spending, those are very real things, there’s nothing fake about that.”

And down into the rabbit hole we tumble, down into a wonderland in which facts don’t matter, the truth doesn’t matter, and “facts” and “truth” are in fact meaningless and irrelevant concepts.  In public debate and discussion, fake evidence is now as good as real evidence, which I guess is a mighty convenient thing for those who can’t cite actual facts and evidence when making their case.

And of course, once you’ve done that, you’ve also destroyed any basis for rational thought and analysis. Again, convenient for some in the short term, but in the long run it’s deadly. You can’t live your life on that basis, and you sure as hell can’t run a country that way.

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ORIGINAL POST:

Your president — and mine — spent his early morning tweeting out multiple, viciously irresponsible anti-Muslim videos posted by a fascist right-wing hate group in Britain.

That group, Britain First, was of course thrilled by the recognition and validation.

Jayda Fransen, the woman whose account was retweeted by Donald Trump, already faces charges on four counts of religious harassment in Britain, and was rearrested just 10 days ago for extremist remarks that she made at a rally in Belfast, Northern Ireland. Among other outrages, she and her group, Britain First, have made it a practice to invade British mosques en masse during prayer, carrying Bibles and demanding that Muslims convert to Christianity if they want to stay in the United Kingdom. They also want a ban on new mosques nationwide.

“We will restore Christianity as the bedrock and foundation of our national life as it has been for the last one thousand years,” it says in its mission statement. “We will make Britain a beautiful country once again where you can leave your door unlocked and your children can play in the streets.”

Even the anti-immigrant movement UKIP has tried to separate itself from Fransen’s group.

“On the fringes of our politics are nutters, and we don’t want them anywhere near us,” as a UKIP spokesman put it. Well, Trump has now publicly embraced and endorsed those “nutters.”

Not surprisingly, British politicians quickly condemned Trump’s actions, with many demanding that a state visit by Trump planned for early next year be canceled. Anti-Muslim bigots such as Michael Savage and Pamela Geller have already been banned from entering the United Kingdom, and Trump may end up on that list as well.

“Trump sharing Britain First. Let that sink in,” wrote one member of Parliament. “The President of the United States is promoting a fascist, racist, extremist hate group whose leaders have been arrested and convicted. He is no ally or friend of ours.

“Donald Trump you are not welcome in my country and my city.”

“‘Trump has legitimised the far right in his own country, now he’s trying to do it in ours,” tweeted Brendan Cox. “Spreading hatred has consequences and the President should be ashamed of himself.” Cox’s wife, Jo, a member of Parliament, was stabbed and shot last year by a man who yelled “Britain First” over her dead body.

Again, this is our president, the man whom we’ve elected to lead us and to represent us on the international stage, to embody American values to the world. By retweeting Britain First media, he has encouraged racists extremists and violence not only in the United Kingdom but in other countries as well. He has put himself, and by extension us, on the side of the haters.

Imagine a president retweeting fake, anti-Jewish videos. Or anti-Catholic or anti-black videos. Then explain to me how this is somehow different because the target is Muslims.

 

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Peachs
Peachs

I always figured Trump had some real dirt on Tillerson or a carrot he couldn’t refuse.

straker
straker

Buckeye - "our allies....will be quick to help if the NK gets worse"  They will gladly stand on the sidelines and cheer us on.

Paul42
Paul42

I'm thinking a Democratic operative group needs to take a page from the Republican playbook.

Traveling bands of organizers in the locations of Donald's campaign events.  Recruit locals for the events.   Go in with their MAGA hats.  Disperse though the crowd.  Donald says things like "This tax cut is going to cost me, big-time!" and the locals all yell "LIAR!"

Won't take long for Donald to go from ridicule to unhinged at the rally.

TBS
TBS

Oh dear

There are short bus and Downs comments.

Will the feigned outrage soon follow?

TBS
TBS

It’s been going on for awhile now without a peep.

Just as it did with the other one. Then it was a half hearted facade.

Fake

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@TBS

Assuming that was directed at me, it does no good to peep so why waste my time.

It didn't alter td's, rimsky's behavior, it likely wouldn't alter infrared's either.

You know what they say about insanity.

I'm not afflicted.

Paul42
Paul42

@FIGMO2

Ummm... you didn't get TBS's permission before you bounced an insult off the post, directed at td, rimsky and infrared.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@FIGMO2 @TBS


Usually, the last person to recognize the crazy in a crazy person is the crazy person, and usually that recognition only comes when the spirit is ascending upward (or downward, in some cases).

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Paul42 @FIGMO2

Statements of fact based on evidence brought forth by TBS.

rimsky's not here to see it. tds has made it clear he doesn't care, and I'm not familiar enough with infrared to know whether he cares or not.

Paul42
Paul42

@FIGMO2
But you didn't get permission.

See how silly your permission  post sounds?

Kamchak
Kamchak

@Infraredguy

  are you worried that your EBT credits will be cut?

Absolutely!

I won't get my expensive craft beer from Green's without them.

Paul42
Paul42

@Kamchak
So we don't have to shop at Whole Foods any more?

Thanks, that's good to know.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@Infraredguy

They won't sell beer to Down Syndrome people 

Did Green's call and tell you that?

LOL!   

Paul42
Paul42

I see the same pattern with many of our cons as I do with Donald and his tweets.

He gets a rebuke from the British PM and he just HAS to respond.   With something.  Anything.  No matter how juvenile.  The only imperative is to respond.

Same with the comments here.  Look at the subject, look at the posts our cons pop off with.  Absolutely mindless but, they've posted last!

Paul42
Paul42

@Infraredguy
You posted THAT in response to "absolutely mindless"?

So much for your badge of honor.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Rep. John Conyers, the longtime congressman embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal, was admitted to a Detroit hospital Thursday, his spokesman said.

“The congressman is resting comfortably in an area hospital,” spokesman Sam Riddle told reporters. “He’s doing okay, as well as can be expected for a gentleman that’s approaching 90 years of age.”

Riddle told CBS affiliate WWJ his boss was hospitalized because of a stress-related ailment. 

Conyers, 88, announced Wednesday night he wouldn’t seek re-election amid the misconduct allegations, returning to Detroit later that evening. 

Well that's one way to dispose of Conyers and save Franken.

Smooth operators, those dems.

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

@FIGMO2  now only the nurses will have to see him parade around in his jockey shorts  

Paul42
Paul42

@FIGMO2
So you are saying that every case, no matter the circumstances, calls for the same penalty?

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

@Paul42 @FIGMO2  Well Franken only pretended to grab her boobs, unlike Clinton who went straight for them on his escapades 

ScubaSteve
ScubaSteve

@FIGMO2  Whatever it takes. I'm fine with letting Conyers exit with a touch of dignity, as long as he exits. No safe harbor for Franken, though.

Paul42
Paul42

@Infraredguy
Same question to you, which you did not answer but used only as a springboard for attention:

Does every case, no matter the circumstances, call for the same penalty?

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Paul42 @FIGMO2

Dem reps have been looking to unload Conyers.

Members of the CBC have protested the double-standard being applied to one (Conyers) and not the other (Franken).

They know what's happening.

Now Conyers has agreed not to seek re-election?

Another accusers has just come forth alleging Franklin groped her during his USO tour.

Paul42
Paul42

@FIGMO2
Thanks.  I'll take that as a "Yes."

It's likely the way things are going to shake out for now.  A 'clear the decks' kind of thing.  Later will come a more nuanced evaluation.

You answered.  Infraredguy couldn't.  That's to be expected.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Paul42 @FIGMO2

You don't have my permission to bounce an insult off of me, Paul.

It's cowardly.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@FIGMO2 @Paul42


Insults don't bounce off you, felicia; they get absorbed. It's why you can't help yourself from digging a deeper hole. Every dang time.

Paul42
Paul42

@FIGMO2
I'm on this thread.  Infraredguy is on this thread.  I don't need your permission for anything.  If you don't like being compared with Infraredguy, tough.

The insult was mostly to you.  "I'll take that as a yes" is a polite way of saying "you, also, were unable and unwilling to give a clear concise answer."

You should have been able to figure that one out.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Paul42 @FIGMO2

Do we need to discuss allegations vs hard evidence once again, Paul?

Right now we're dealing with allegations. Some supported by evidence (settlements), others not.

Even settlements don't indicate guilt.

As it stands now, I'm pithed at Conyers only because he used taxpayers' money to settle claims.

Paul42
Paul42

@FIGMO2
That still doesn't answer the question:  "So you are saying that every case, no matter the circumstances, calls for the same penalty?"

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

The DNC has hired Ernest & Young to keep count of the Dems sexual predators, its just to big a job for inside staff. 

Paul42
Paul42

@Infraredguy
Your continuing to make this about "my side vs your side" and keep score like in a football game shows you as a moral midget.

Paul42
Paul42

@Infraredguy
And then you pick up with one of Fan4500's rejoinders.

Face it, you have no sense of overriding morality, only partisan advantage.

TBS
TBS

What were you saying just yesterday about someone’s spelling?

to big?

Is that you, td?